Calif Coast tour, but campgrounds closed.
I'd like to bike the calif. coast. But all the campgrounds seem to be closed due to covid. I'm not a 100 mile a day guy. probably closer to 50 to 60 at least for now. I'm not sure if there are enough motels frequently enough at those distances. any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks
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Originally Posted by jpjuggler
(Post 21743804)
I'd like to bike the calif. coast. But all the campgrounds seem to be closed due to covid. I'm not a 100 mile a day guy. probably closer to 50 to 60 at least for now. I'm not sure if there are enough motels frequently enough at those distances. any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks
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OP, when are you thinking about this tour? It won't be too much longer until the winter storms hit. Second worst windy day I've had was near the CA coast -- reminded me of my worst windy day ever, but it was only a quarter as long as the stretch in Wyoming. You might want to wait until spring, and hope things open back up.
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Originally Posted by jpjuggler
(Post 21743804)
I'd like to bike the calif. coast. But all the campgrounds seem to be closed due to covid. I'm not a 100 mile a day guy. probably closer to 50 to 60 at least for now. I'm not sure if there are enough motels frequently enough at those distances. any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks
Go to Google maps, look at distances to larger towns X kms from your start point. Look for hotels, motels, whatever. Call them. Repeat, and voila, you'll have your answer. and I'd take the wind warnings seriously. I did the Oregon Cali trip a million years ago (camping) but I do remember the prevailing winds, so when locals here talk of the stronger winds in oct, I sure wouldnt want to be riding against them, or even dealing with wind and rain if thats a possibility , although I have no clue of Californian weather. you should be able to get a good idea of whats available, its so easy to find this info nowadays. If you do it, have fun. |
The main problem you will have between SF and LA is from Pfeiffer-Big Sur to San Simeon. There are a few expensive motels between the two, but not much else. It is 70 stunning miles of serious up and down.
If you are starting further north, you should be able to find something every 50 miles, even if some days are shorter or longer than that. I've written a guide to biking from SF to LA that might be of interest to you regarding that portion of your trip. |
Is everything burned or on fire? Or will you be breathing smoke?
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Not everywhere is on fire, but many choice roads are still closed anyway "because they can". Reminds me of the endless PITA road construction projects, that never seem to get done. I have just about had with this state, and it has nothing to do with fires or earthquakes.
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
(Post 21744458)
OP, when are you thinking about this tour? It won't be too much longer until the winter storms hit. Second worst windy day I've had was near the CA coast -- reminded me of my worst windy day ever, but it was only a quarter as long as the stretch in Wyoming. You might want to wait until spring, and hope things open back up.
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Originally Posted by raybo
(Post 21745011)
The main problem you will have between SF and LA is from Pfeiffer-Big Sur to San Simeon. There are a few expensive motels between the two, but not much else. It is 70 stunning miles of serious up and down.
I've written a guide to biking from SF to LA that might be of interest to you regarding that portion of your trip. |
Originally Posted by Leebo
(Post 21745040)
Is everything burned or on fire? Or will you be breathing smoke?
Anytime in CA, I will be taking the smoke fire very seriously. besides just wood smoke, when houses and other things burn, there are other particulates in the air from metal, batteries, and who knows what else that I don't want in my lungs. |
Originally Posted by niknak
(Post 21744339)
Where are you starting and where are you ending? Have you looked into AirBnB and Warm Showers? Have you thought about stealth/wild/free camping?
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Check the CA park rules for camping. It might be like NY State where you can camp most anywhere in a state forest (below 3500 ft) as long as you are 150 ft. away from water or a road. That makes it wild stealth camping, not illegal "stealth" camping.
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985
(Post 21745068)
Not everywhere is on fire, but many choice roads are still closed anyway "because they can". Reminds me of the endless PITA road construction projects, that never seem to get done. I have just about had with this state, and it has nothing to do with fires or earthquakes.
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Originally Posted by jpjuggler
(Post 21745575)
Good point!
Anytime in CA, I will be taking the smoke fire very seriously. besides just wood smoke, when houses and other things burn, there are other particulates in the air from metal, batteries, and who knows what else that I don't want in my lungs. |
I am a big fan of stealth camping, even in closed parks. Leave no trace, pack it out. The biggest issue with this is water and food. Bring a filter as backup (Sawyer filter is small and light).
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Most of the CA state parks are open south of SFO. The campgrounds require reservations. No hiker biker sites because that is considered group camping.
Here is my list of campgrounds SFO-SAN. If they are marked hiker-biker they also have reg camp sites. Military ones will req a DOD ID. First number is total miles from start. Second number is miles from preceding campground. PACIFIC COAST ROUTE CAMPGROUNDS, HOSTEL, MILITARILY LODGING 000/000 Colma Bart station 026/026 Half Moon Bay State Beach Hiker-Biker 048/022 Pigeon Point Light House Hostel 083/035 New Brighton State Beach Hiker-Biker 128/045 Navy Lodge Monterey Military lodging 131/003 Monterey Veterans Memorial Park Hiker-Biker 133/002 Navy Post Graduate School Monterey Military-Lodging 136/003 IHG Army Hotel Monterey Military-Lodging 169/033 Pfeiffer Big Sur State Park Hiker-Biker 198/025 Kirk Creek Campground Camping (no water or showers) 203/005 Plaskett Creek Campground Camping (no showers) 238/035 Hearst San Simeon State Park Hiker Biker 265/0027 Morro Bay State Park Hiker-Biker 273/008 El Chorro Regional Park Camping 275/002 Camp San Louis Obispo Military-camping military-Lodging 293/018 Pismo State Beach/North Beach Campground Camping 295/002 Coastal Dunes RV Park Hiker-Biker 296/001 Oceano Campground Camping 339/043 Vandenberg AFB Military-Camping. Military-Lodging 381/042 Refugio State Beach Hiker-Biker 384/003 EL Capitan State Beach Hiker-Biker 416/032 Carpinteria State Beach Hiker-Biker 439/023 McGrath State Beach Hiker-Biker 448/009 Navy Lodge Port Hueneme Military-Lodging 454/006 NAS Point Mugu Military-Lodging. Military-Camping 456/002 Point Mugu State Park Hiker-Biker 460/004 Leo Carrillo State Park Hiker-Biker 487/0027 Hi Los Angels Santa Monica Hostel Hostel 516/0029 Fort MacArthur Military-Lodging 554/0038 Crystal Cove State Park Camping 568/014 Doheny State Park Hiker-Biker 595/027 Pendleton Pacific Views Lodge Military-Lodging 611/016 San Elijah State Beach Camping 637/026 SanDiego Military-Lodging |
Originally Posted by balto charlie
(Post 21747770)
I am a big fan of stealth camping, even in closed parks. Leave no trace, pack it out. The biggest issue with this is water and food. Bring a filter as backup (Sawyer filter is small and light).
If you "stealth camp" in a closed park and you're caught there, can you be charged with trespassing or other charges? Cheers |
Originally Posted by Miele Man
(Post 21749080)
Just curious.
If you "stealth camp" in a closed park and you're caught there, can you be charged with trespassing or other charges? Cheers |
Originally Posted by Miele Man
(Post 21749080)
Just curious.
If you "stealth camp" in a closed park and you're caught there, can you be charged with trespassing or other charges? Cheers |
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21749454)
I’ve read the posted regulations in PA and NJ state parks. The answer is yes. Same if you glide into an open one late and sneak out in the morning without paying, as more than one person on this site has said they like to do.
I think this is absurd, FWIW, since the land is ours not theirs. But that's what will happen if you mess with the feds, they will crush you like a bug every chance they get. |
Originally Posted by Lemond1985
(Post 21749458)
It's amazing how heavily-patrolled a closed NP is. I think they patrol them even more when they are closed.
I think this is absurd, FWIW, since the land is ours not theirs. But that's what will happen if you mess with the feds, they will crush you like a bug every chance they get. And patrolling a closed park is wise so trespassers don't get themselves hurt or killed or trash the place or start forest fires doing stupid stuff like people are prone to do. Did you not hear about the trashing of many parks earlier this year? People leaving behind mountains of trash and crapping all over the place. And it's not "our" land. It's owned by the federal government and held in trust for a multitude of uses, including commercial uses like logging and mining. |
Originally Posted by Miele Man
(Post 21749080)
Just curious.
If you "stealth camp" in a closed park and you're caught there, can you be charged with trespassing or other charges? Cheers |
Originally Posted by Lemond1985
(Post 21749458)
It's amazing how heavily-patrolled a closed NP is. I think they patrol them even more when they are closed.
I think this is absurd, FWIW, since the land is ours not theirs. But that's what will happen if you mess with the feds, they will crush you like a bug every chance they get. |
Originally Posted by balto charlie
(Post 21749525)
During Govt shut down the National Parks were empty. Minimal patrolling. Some folks took back roads to get into the parks out west and virtually had them to themselves. Imagine Arches with no tourist!!
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985
(Post 21749458)
It's amazing how heavily-patrolled a closed NP is. I think they patrol them even more when they are closed.
I think this is absurd, FWIW, since the land is ours not theirs. But that's what will happen if you mess with the feds, they will crush you like a bug every chance they get. Maybe you are joking |
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