What size/type wire is used for pannier's hooks?
 

I would like to create my own pannier hooks. What size/type wire is used for pannier's hooks?

I don't think you'll be wanting to use wire of any sort. The hooks/mounts need to be quite stiff. I'd think mild steel, 1 inch wide, 1/16th inch thick sheet steel(bar stock) covered with plasti-dip would work. Panniers with a simple hook mount can bounce off the rack on big bumps. A Rixen and Kaul pannier lock is helpful.

Hi there PW,
im fairly certain that you can purchase parts from Arkel. Up to you if you want the challenge of doing it yourself but arkel and ortlieb are excellent quality.

you really want to avoid the hopping off thing, I've had it happen a bunch of times, and why I bought ortliebs in 93.

I have one bicycle where the hook on the bottom of the racks is challenging. I thought that reconstructing the existing hooks on the panniers of that bike would work by creating a double hook splaying out to the sides ... sort of like a trebble hook on a fishing lure.

Right now I have these wire loops that more or less do the job but I wanted to stop using those and instead make a different type of pannier hook.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ef7281f0cb.png

get your butt over to home depot or whatever you've got in your area for misc parts.
wander through all the sections.....general hardware, shelving, furniture doodads, etc.
find you some groovy stainless steel hooks with a ridged support in the arch.

you'll also want some bungee cord and smaller hooks to clip to the bottom of
your rack to keep the "luggage" from bouncing off.

hint: take your rack with you to the store to check the fit.

I have used stainless steel key rings. Strong and easy to put on racks. My Lone Peak bags did not reach the normal hooks. I use small front panniers on the rear.

Weird rack, but in a way it does look kind of neat.

If I understand this right, you have panniers and the lower hook does not work on that rack, thus you want a new lower hook that will.

I had similar trouble with the lower hook on some Carradry panniers on my Tubus Logo EVO rack. I made a lower hook out of 1/8 X 3/4 inch aluminum, stretched a piece of inner tube rubber over that so that it does not have a metal on metal wear spot. See photo.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5df7549b29.jpg

Lower hook does not have to be tremendously strong. If I crashed it probably would bend, but in normal use it only needs to hold the pannier against the rack so it does not rattle.

Disregard the small green thing, that was a twisty wire from a bread loaf wrapper that I used to hold the nut in the right place when I inserted the bolt into it to assemble.

Interesting bike, is that custom titanium?

I used rope hooks for the top hooks and sewed velcro to a strap for the lower attachment on my kitty litter bucket panniers.

Would something like this work for the lower attachment? They're probably too long, but you could shorten them.
https://www.amazon.com/Fastening-management-Microfiber-Management-Electronics/dp/B08GWZSQ64.

Rope hook: https://www.amazon.com/National-Hard.../dp/B000BQPBUM

I dont understand this rack design. Is it for a certain type of pannier attachment that isnt usually a hook at the bottom? Thats the only scenario I can think of where this design would make sense.

I built some panniers out of Arkel mounting hardware and some OR dry bags and they are great. I would just do that if I really needed to DIY, they work well and hold like champ. Granted my actual Arkel panniers are way better but the dry bag ones are handy for small stuff and short trips.

I thought you were talking about the upper hangers. The lower hooks..again, probably not wire, but steel round-rod, 1/16th or 1/8th inch. I'd need to seed better pictures of the rack and panniers for a better estimate on design.

doesnt tubus make an attachment for Tara racks (front rack) that is a bolt on thingee with the hole for panniers with bungees and bottom hooks?

found it, would this be good? (says its plastic, thought it was metal)

https://ortliebusa.com/product/plast...p-for-taraduo/

hmm. This might be the best solution so far. Thanks!

You're wilkommen

Oh, so you need a hook on a rack that you can use with a hook on a spring or a bunge that is on the pannier. You are not looking for a hook on the pannier.

My Ergo (discontinued Tubus low rider) has metal ones. And my Tara has the threaded bosses in the rack for the metal hooks, it might have come with metal hooks.

The metal hooks on mine, Tubus part number 32003.
https://www.xxcycle.com/hook-pannier...-32003,,en.php

My Ortliebs have nifty little latching hooks about 3/4" wide so they spread the load. They also unlatch when you pick up the handle so you can remove them.
The other bike's rack has older Bob Beckman panniers that hang from hooks bent out of flat bars, again about 3/4" wide. They are dipped in vinyl to keep from scratching/wearing the rack. They are held down by a little strap and buckle that crosses a lower corner of the rack frame.
Neither set has ever come adrift.

Look into the wire frames used to hold pans for heating food. Got one at a $store and broken down I made 2 new hooks. Some of the bars are quite strong
more than enough to make several more if needed