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Disc only, V-brake only or Disc + V-brake?

Old 06-30-23, 09:05 AM
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Disc only, V-brake only or Disc + V-brake?

I'm far from building framesets yet but I think tourists have different needs. Like v-brakes or mechanical disc brakes might be preferable for simplicity. But I was thinking yesterday, if you find disc brakes a bit tedious to work with would you prefer to have a v-brake on the front fork as a backup?
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I've seen a few bikes with front disc and rear V-brake. I'd rather go that way if I could only have one disc. I suppose it would make rear wheel reinstallation a tad easier.
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I would not build a bike frame that is designed for both disc or rim brake. That said, one of my frames (but not the fork) came that way, the manufacture wanted to give that buyer a choice of brake. On that bike I use rim brakes front and rear, I do not use the disc mounting point. Some people that built up that particular model fitted their bike with disc rear and rim brake front.

My Lynskey, they sold the fork separate from the frame which was disc only. And I had a rim brake fork in storage that had the correct axle to crown length and rake, thus I did not need to buy a new $300 fork if I used rim brake front and disc rear, so that is what I did.

I have never ridden a tandem, but some tandems are fitted with an extra brake on the rear, but I think that always is a drum brake. Someone that knows more about tandems could elaborate on this.
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My last touring bike was an LHT with a straggler fork so disc front and rim brake rear. I tried a V-brake but as we all know, they don't work with road levers. Drop levers with MTB cable pull are horrid. Tried mini V and cantilever as well.

It wasn't optimal. I'm much happier with my current pea soup green disc trucker with discs up front and back. I'd be even happier though if I could fit 180mm rotors, but that's happening at some point.
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Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr
I'm far from building framesets yet but I think tourists have different needs. Like v-brakes or mechanical disc brakes might be preferable for simplicity. But I was thinking yesterday, if you find disc brakes a bit tedious to work with would you prefer to have a v-brake on the front fork as a backup?
You have asked this at least twice in the last couple years on the general cycling forum.

There is 0 chance you will make bikes soon, but when you promise yourself its actually going to happen, just build disc. There is 0 need for canti/vbrake posts in 2023, much less in the year you finally 'build' framesets.
Disc brakes are easy to work on and easy to maintain. The same disc mounts can handle cable and hydraulic systems so the user can choose which.
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This time I meant both at the same time. I thought some people might have an interest.
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Disc on 2 mt. Bikes, both recent purchase 29” bikes

V brakes on my 25 year old steel touring bike.
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Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr
This time I meant both at the same time. I thought some people might have an interest.
If I had four brakes with my two hands, ... not interested.
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Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr
I'm far from building framesets yet but I think tourists have different needs. Like v-brakes or mechanical disc brakes might be preferable for simplicity. But I was thinking yesterday, if you find disc brakes a bit tedious to work with would you prefer to have a v-brake on the front fork as a backup?
doesn't really matter. a properly set up v-brake will stop you about as well as a mechanical disk.

if you will at some distant time in the future, build frames, by then v's and cantis will probably have been obsolete for decades. if not, go ahead and add some canti studs. it's a small amount of additional work and won't hurt anything and won't add more than a few grams to the frame weight.

it'll give you the option of using v's if your disk calipers break in the middle of nowwhere.....assuming you have rims with braking surfaces. and it'll give you mounting points for racks or struts or supports.

what's the worst that can happen? you have a few unused canti studs............add some titanium bolts for bling.
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I wanted to be clear, there wouldn't be extra mounts. I mean someone on this board once said he had the Nashbar frame with both and didn't like the v-brake bosses sticking out when discs were installed.
I see some people voted for v-brakes anyway. So maybe different models would be justified.
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Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr
I wanted to be clear, there wouldn't be extra mounts. I mean someone on this board once said he had the Nashbar frame with both and didn't like the v-brake bosses sticking out when discs were installed.
I see some people voted for v-brakes anyway. So maybe different models would be justified.
If you are building a custom frame for yourself, or having one built, if you really think you need both perhaps you should skip the V brake/canti brake thinking and use a sidepull caliper brake instead. Have the fork crown and the seatstay bridge drilled for a caliper brake. You can carry your spare brake(s) in a pannier and if you want to install it later you can. This however could limit your tire size.

Thorn on their Mk III Nomad frame have removable canti brake posts. A couple bolts hold the posts to the chainstays.
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If starting from scratch, I would use disc on both front and rear, not because they are that much superior but that is what is going to be available in the foreseeable future. If you are an old fart like myself and already have a touring wheelset or two that makes use of rim brake rims and I could make use of linear brakes, then I would.
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Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr
I... if you find disc brakes a bit tedious to work with would you prefer to have a v-brake on the front fork as a backup?
Is a rear disc brake less tedious to work on than the front? Most of your braking is done through the front. Seems like the better brake should go there.
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Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr
This time I meant both at the same time. I thought some people might have an interest.
Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr
I wanted to be clear, there wouldn't be extra mounts. I mean someone on this board once said he had the Nashbar frame with both and didn't like the v-brake bosses sticking out when discs were installed.
I see some people voted for v-brakes anyway. So maybe different models would be justified.
Admittedly, I didnt even look at your poll when I first responded. I figured you meant both disc and vbrake mounts since that is something you started a thread on in the General forum.
Now that I have read your poll, I see that you are even further from genuinely pursuing the idea of building frames. If you think vbrake posts on the fork is good, just add the disc tabs to give users that option.

This is clearly all hypothetical though.
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Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr
.........if you find disc brakes a bit tedious to work with..........?
tedious? if mechanical disk, they're basically the same as rim brakes.

you know the business card trick to align the disk and stop rubbing?
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Originally Posted by elcruxio
My last touring bike was an LHT with a straggler fork so disc front and rim brake rear. I tried a V-brake but as we all know, they don't work with road levers. Drop levers with MTB cable pull are horrid. Tried mini V and cantilever as well.
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Or, add a Problem Solvers Travel Agent to change the cable pull from the lever (short pull) to what the V brake needs (long pull). That is what I did on my Lynskey, in the photo.



I also did that on my Nomad, both front and rear.
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