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Old 07-21-23, 04:11 AM
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Tall segmented alum tent poles - ground pitching tarp?

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I am thinking through a scenario here. We are looking at a short tour this fall and one scenario I am trying to improve on is rigging my hammock tarp.

For a pictorial of what I am up to see the 1st picture in my following thread on a trip I did a few years ago:
Day 5, 3rd day with rain in a row

That set up there worked for me. I used a tree on one end and the other end was up and over the tent. However, that was pretty low. I'd like to get the ridge up between 7-10' so I can be under it and stand up.

I have found several styles of segmented tent poles up to about 3/4" diameter. I'd like to find something wider - at least an inch. The stiffness of them will come from the diameter. And with the tarp up that high the poles supporting it will turn in to a noodle quick.

Another common idea for pitching a tarp or supporting a 1 man tent is to use trekking poles. I have experimented with that idea. And, though they would work in a pinch for a backpacking trip as a method to ground pitch the tarp, they would be very low to the ground - far too low for what I am after - and extending them isn't a good idea. If I added 2x trekking poles together that might get the length, but then the set up is not rigid nor very strong.

We have a cabin tent that uses poles very similar to the following:
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabe...9&gclsrc=3p.ds

I like the cam adjustment. However, the poles are steel - not aluminum - and are heavier than I would want to tote along.

I tried using the poles from my dome tent a few years back but they are far too weak. Those types of poles are only strong in an arc in combination with the tent fabric. By themselves they are very weak structures.
Ground pitching a hammock - ideas?

The .742" diameter poles (largest diameter) this place offers are closer to what I am after. I do not think that diameter is going to be sufficient, however. I think they would be better than the dome tent poles and trekking poles by far, but not quite what I am after.
https://www.questoutfitters.com/Tent_Poles_742.htm

Thoughts?
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5.5', 420 g:
https://www.snowpeak.com/collections...e-170cm-tp-022

6.9', 860 g:
https://www.snowpeak.com/collections...luminum-tp-003

I have two of the shorter one. It is shorter than you want; the one that is longer is quite heavy.
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I prefer to set up tarps low enough that when the wind is blowing the rain, it does not blow the rain too far under a tarp. Thus, I prefer my tarps low, low enough that I can easily sit under it but not stand. I just have to lean over when I get under the tarp if the edge is about 3 feet off the ground.

But if you really need to stand under it, do as you wish.
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Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
I prefer to set up tarps low enough that when the wind is blowing the rain, it does not blow the rain too far under a tarp. Thus, I prefer my tarps low, low enough that I can easily sit under it but not stand. I just have to lean over when I get under the tarp if the edge is about 3 feet off the ground.

But if you really need to stand under it, do as you wish.
I understand the point, and from that perspective - wind blowing rain - that makes sense.

However, I can't stand in my tent and a high tarp would give me another option.

There is a small cottage industry place I may have make a bigger tarp for me for the purpose. That will serve a couple purposes - the two main ones are an area to fix meals and a "garage" for bikes.

The tarp I have now has the optional "doors" (panels that box off the front/rear of the A frame pitch). I am thinking with a custom one maybe have the end flaps sewn on to it. That would give better sealing between the roof and the panels.

But yes - height-wise I want the option to go high so I can stand under it.
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Originally Posted by KC8QVO
I understand the point, and from that perspective - wind blowing rain - that makes sense.

However, I can't stand in my tent and a high tarp would give me another option.

There is a small cottage industry place I may have make a bigger tarp for me for the purpose. That will serve a couple purposes - the two main ones are an area to fix meals and a "garage" for bikes.

The tarp I have now has the optional "doors" (panels that box off the front/rear of the A frame pitch). I am thinking with a custom one maybe have the end flaps sewn on to it. That would give better sealing between the roof and the panels.

But yes - height-wise I want the option to go high so I can stand under it.
I have not seen a baker tent since I was a kid in scouts, but if anybody makes a baker tent in nylon, that might be what you want. The tent has a lean-to shaped roof, three vertical sides, and a door that can be opened up and held up with poles like a tarp.

Decades ago they had no floor or mosquito netting, if they are still made by anyone they may or may not have that stuff added. Now, everyone wants netting.

Google search for baker tent and see what you think.

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Or, give up on standing under the tarp and bring a chair.



On my last canoe trip last fall, that is where I hung out during the rain and where I did my cooking during rain.
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