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Originally Posted by ericoseveins
(Post 22969142)
I think you should pretty good about this purchase and not worry that you've contributed to theft. Where I live we have a pretty robust market in stolen bicycles and it is a crime of opportunity. Bike thieves don't usually put effort into fabricating a back story for so little profit and they are never kind, helpful, or informative. It's much easier to just cut off discussion and disappear when a buyer asks too many questions. OTOH kind, helpful, and informative people are often very bad at listing their bikes effectively.
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Originally Posted by StarBiker
(Post 22969825)
As a seller I would ignore a lot of questions. I take many pics and know exactly where the bikes I have for sale came from. I think only two people ever left without buying one a being thumb sucker, and the other paying $75 for a perfect mountain bike thought it was cheap. It sold for $75 in a week, and needed nothing but a rider.
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Originally Posted by mams99
(Post 22969519)
I bought the tires (the bigger of the two you posted). Thanks for the rec.
I was out riding a different (from my touring bike) bike (Bianchi Grizzly mtn bike) yesterday that also has a set of Big Ben's on it and again was taken with how easy and fast the tires were. They fly. Riding your current setup some more and then mount the Big Bens..I'd be curious to know what you think about the difference in ride. |
and of course there are all kinds of great tires suited for touring in much narrower widths, lighter etc that will make the bike faster and feel more nimble.
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If you'll all forgive a contrary question:
My perception of "long rail trails" is that they're rather limited. The Katy Trail and the Mickelson Trail, along with the GAP (plus C&O, but that's not really a Rail trail) are trips of about a week of riding. Ditto the Erie Canal Trail. So a longer tour, say 2-4 weeks, is going to have to include quite a bit of road riding. Similarly, the route across Washington state, though mapped, is still 25% roads. Now I'd expect the Ogre would be a perfectly fine MTB for touring, perhaps better than some MTBs because of the tire width. Forest Service roads should be easily accessible, for instance. I wouldn't mind trying the Great Divide route on an Ogre, except perhaps for the weight, but it'd be a different kind of riding than rail trails. Am I totally off base? |
Originally Posted by pdlamb
(Post 22970411)
If you'll all forgive a contrary question:
My perception of "long rail trails" is that they're rather limited. The Katy Trail and the Mickelson Trail, along with the GAP (plus C&O, but that's not really a Rail trail) are trips of about a week of riding. Ditto the Erie Canal Trail. So a longer tour, say 2-4 weeks, is going to have to include quite a bit of road riding. Similarly, the route across Washington state, though mapped, is still 25% roads. Now I'd expect the Ogre would be a perfectly fine MTB for touring, perhaps better than some MTBs because of the tire width. Forest Service roads should be easily accessible, for instance. I wouldn't mind trying the Great Divide route on an Ogre, except perhaps for the weight, but it'd be a different kind of riding than rail trails. Am I totally off base? |
Originally Posted by mams99
(Post 22968874)
I got it!!!
It took me forever to find time to get it with needing to help watch my MIL with dementia, so I was lucky it was still available, but it was!!!! It was 100 miles each way to get it, but worth the long drive. The seller was knowledgeable and friendly. He just rides his road bike more now that he's moved. It's been sitting in storage. It fits like a glove. It feels JUST RIGHT. I am so stoked! It's in my car still because I just got home an hour ago, but the search is over. I "think" it is a 2015 Surly Ogre. I'm thrilled with the micro shifting. I wish it had a thru axel, but, for $600 to get this bike, with the front and racks Surly racks, fenders, and 2 ortlieb bags in near perfect shape (a few smudge marks, no damage) I'm soooo happy. Note to sellers though - more information helps you sell. This was simply listed as "bike for sale" in the listing - nothing else in the title. I found it because I did a search specifically for a small Surly Ogre which was listed elsewhere in the listing. So, to try it out more thoroughly tomorrow. . |
Originally Posted by LeeG
(Post 22970499)
Congrats! I assume you have a good floor pump and are familiar with changing tires. Have fun. Don’t worry about through axles. For kicks and giggles take the fenders and racks off. Fiddle around with seat and bar position. Have a shop check the wheels and spoke tension. Ride, ride, ride. Play w different tires. And then add tourimg stuff little by little.
Thank goodness my partner who barely rides (and didn't learn to ride a bike until he was 18) understands that not one bike can do it all very well! ETA - but I did just realize it will be the first time I will ever use a Presta valve tire! |
Originally Posted by mams99
(Post 22970576)
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ETA - but I did just realize it will be the first time I will ever use a Presta valve tire! But some pumps do not use a lever like the Park pump, just press on and pull off. And some pumps like the Lezyne Micro Floor Drive thread onto the valve. |
Originally Posted by mams99
(Post 22970576)
I do have a good floor pump and I do know how to change tires. But you all who take things on and off bikes are way more energetic than I am. I DETEST taking things on and off the bike - like racks and such. I now have a nice selection of bikes - one for grocery shopping and tooling about town, one to throw in the trunk of the car or on a train, one for the trainer, and one for doing rail trail and eventually touring for trips (3-10 days).
Thank goodness my partner who barely rides (and didn't learn to ride a bike until he was 18) understands that not one bike can do it all very well! ETA - but I did just realize it will be the first time I will ever use a Presta valve tire! The reason for removing the racks/fenders is that it’s not uncommon for those bolts to loosen if you’ve never installed and snugged them down to begin with. When I had my shop a lot of the repairs I did was from bolts and spokes never being torqued correctly from day one or checked over time so the person got accustomed to rattles and squeaks as being normal and then when something failed they were surprised. “it’s never done that before!” and I’m thinking “it’s been doing it all along and you ignored it until it broke”. Anyway your front rack is wonderfully heavy and appropriate for heavy loads at 3 lbs. If you aren’t regularly loading up the front with big loads you coukd experiment with other combos. I’m envious. |
Originally Posted by mams99
(Post 22970479)
If I know I'm going to be on a lot of roads for a trip, I can change tires, right?
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Originally Posted by djb
(Post 22970292)
and of course there are all kinds of great tires suited for touring in much narrower widths, lighter etc that will make the bike faster and feel more nimble.
There's a lot of good tires out there. The problem that presents itself to those that haven't researched tires extensively (or spent hundreds of dollars trying different tires, or toured for decades which offers time to try different tires or learned which tires to purchase directly from other touring people)...is there are A LOT of tires available. Which ones to choose from a sea of potential tires? Add in the additional variables within a tire model of extra flat resistance(the "plus" versions adding tons of weight and significantly degrading performance) or widths and a person could easily buy the wrong tire. Reminds me of the adage, "Many people know what needs to be done, significantly fewer know what needs to be done....next." I know you're well versed on good tires to use in various applications. I'm guessing the OP is not so well versed. Few people are interested in spending hundreds of dollars on multiple sets of tires to find out what will work well in their use. Surprisingly few cyclists I run into realize the difference tires make(hard-core roadies aside). So people replying "..there's lots of good tires out there.." is useful, but offers no help in "..what to do next". Knowing there's good tires to be had can't get you to buying one set of the right tires the first time and moving on to other things. It would be helpful if folks suggested a specific tire(make, model and size/width) and why they think the tires would be good in the application. That's something a person can consider and act on. |
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