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new tire day: R. Her$e or Pana-TServ ?

Old 07-29-23, 12:09 PM
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new tire day: R. Her$e or Pana-TServ ?

replacing some HEAVY WTB Cruz 26 x 2.0in tires on my Panasonic. I'm seeing aging-cracking in the side walls. I've had them a good long while. They've been fine for not getting sliced or punctured by road debris.
Lots of dirt roads and not nearly enough touring days. They are heavy and the bike just feels heavy riding with them.

Itching to go to some RH Naches Pass 26in x 1.8in. $74 a piece. Zoinks. https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...dard+%28tan%29

My alt selection are PanaRacers https://www.panaracerusa.com/collect...er-tires#specs

The RH price premium is quite a bit to me. I'd probably happily go GravelKing slicks if they had a size down (...why call them GravelKings if they are slicks..... i don't get it... I guess if labeling something after small rocks sells... so be it. I'm keen to get beyond labeling stuff "gravel". -- "GRAVEL GRANOLA! It stays crispy in milk!!")
Since they don't I'm looking to go RH. Save weight. Allegedly supple. That seems to have been something important the past few years.
I'm wondering if anyone has experience with both where they can vouch I will not sense $100 worth of difference. Or they used the RH, and the side walls got sliced to ribbons. Or... something else. Like- you'll be so happy with lighter better tire my whole life will improve, my bank account will go up and my wife will get even more beautifuller that I think she is now.

OK - let me know quick. I got a 4 day camping trek in 2 weeks - I'd like to get these on order forthwith.

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You won't go wrong with the Panaracer T serv tires and you'll save a lot of dough over the R. Herse tires. I run a set of Panaracer T serv 26 x 1.75 tires on my '93 Bridgestone XO 2. They're fine mixed use tires; I've used them for gravel riding as well. For touring I'd take a look at the Schwalbe Marathon tires as well. The greenguard tires are a solid choice.
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The Panaracer website links to a 1.25” tire. I’ve used a 26”x1.75 Tsev and they are excellent tires. Used them commuting for years. 1.25” is too small for my taste. Only reason to not get them is if you plan on carrying huge amount of weight on the rear in which case pick a heavier tire.
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I use them both and also rtp’s and i kind of like the t-servs in 1.5” all three used on the same bike a handsome xoxo.


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The regular Panaracer Pasela 26”x1.75” might be a little closer to the RH in suppleness than the T-Serv, and they’re about $35 in wire bead form right now. I used to run them on one bike, and thought they rolled nicely.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott;[url=tel:22968183
22968183]The regular Panaracer Pasela 26”x1.75” might be a little closer to the RH in suppleness than the T-Serv, and they’re about $35 in wire bead form right now. I used to run them on one bike, and thought they rolled nicely.
Universal Cycles and Tree Fort Bikes wasn’t showing the Paslsae in the listings. A couple other sites didn’t list them either…
Looks like Amazon can get it. Seems like my LBS has problems getting things not available at Universal.
I’ll definitely consider- I’ve got Palseas on my 2spd. No complaints about Palseas for sure.

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I also have paselas that my handsome came with and I really can tell zero difference between the T-servs and the paselas other than less flats with the T-servs. Not that I had a ton of flats with the paselas but probably 4 flats to 1 with the T's. I currently running the Paselas on my retro mtb which is a nice smooth ride to coffee bike with my wife.

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I have had great service from this outfit. on ordering Panaracers and sometimes if you check their ebay listing the sell even cheaper.
https://www.thebikesmiths.com/collec...41901159907488
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jadmt - oh, man! love that Handsome XOXO - was super keen to get one. But couldn't bring myself to commit financially at the time. that's a lovely - a handsome! - build. AND a Serrota -- trail bike? - Or touring? Either way, I've lusted Serrota from a far since my crit-racing days....

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OK, pulling trigger on the Palseas 26in X 1.75in. A mere 100g more than the RH, and still 200g less than my WTBs now.
I was hoping for that convincing argument where I needed to spend all the extra money on RH. I guess Jan H isn't here on the boards!

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Originally Posted by mrv
jadmt - oh, man! love that Handsome XOXO - was super keen to get one. But couldn't bring myself to commit financially at the time. that's a lovely - a handsome! - build. AND a Serrota -- trail bike? - Or touring? Either way, I've lusted Serrota from a far since my crit-racing days....

TIRES -
OK, pulling trigger on the Palseas 26in X 1.75in. A mere 100g more than the RH, and still 200g less than my WTBs now.
I was hoping for that convincing argument where I needed to spend all the extra money on RH. I guess Jan H isn't here on the boards!

cheers!
I bought the serotta new in the early 90's and last year decided to change it up a little. It came with a rockshox mag21 and I wanted to go rigid. I don't love the fork but it is hard to find the perfect rigid fork. It is a sweet riding bike tho..
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Epilogue 1/2

Panaracers mounted to the Panasonic.

the tiny tires- I jest, they are a mere quarter inch smaller than the WTBs- are messing with my fender OCD. The fender to tire gap is going to either take some fender tweaks, or some smaller width fenders.



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