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Old 12-29-05, 02:45 AM
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New Frames - Old Cranks

I never liked the chain rings that came with my Ultegra Triple (53/42/32) so I found a new set of Sugino AT' crank arms and put a RaceFace rings 110 triple set 9 speed (48/34/24). Had to play with the spacers and I got a 127 tapered bottom bracket. Oh forgot to mention I am riding a Waterford 1900 Adventure Cycle. So when all was said and done none of this worked because the frame wasn't indented !!! Let's say I was peeved - lots of time and money wasted. Is my only option to have my new frame indented to use these cranks? I am told that I don't have many options for the rings for the Ultegra triple either. Anyone elese run into this issue? Thanks
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You should have gotten the XD600 sugino crankset, since it has the modern "Q" designed to work with113-118mm bottom brackets. I had a similar issue on a mtb, I was able to shim out the chainwheel 2 mm to get it to work, a good LBS should have the BB spacers.
But before you buy the spacers , pull the cranks and try threading the fixed cup out a couple of mm , tighten down the adjustable side, reinstall the chainwheel and see if that helps. I would not go more than 3 mm out.

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Old 12-29-05, 10:36 AM
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and if you simply cannot be bothered with the cranks issue, and the waterford is a 55cm or thereabouts, send me a pm. ;-)
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Old 12-30-05, 12:54 AM
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VeloNomad - I tried the spacers already, and yes I should of gotten a modern crankset I just didn't like the spacing on the racing campy triple or ultegra. The AT is such a pretty crankset. I have one more possibilty which is not a great fix, but I have a stash of campy modern inner ring 26 from their MTB days supposed to be the same bolt pattern as the inner Ultegra ring (then it would be 53-42-26)

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With 2 tandems and 2 other Waterfords and lots of other older bikes in the garage I always have some sort of crank issues. Take a lot a the Waterford site - I usually ride a 55 - but because of the sloping top tube I couldn't go by the straight top tube measurement. When I get done I'll send you a picture - making a deal to switch out the 36 hole Ultegra wheels for 40 hole Phil Wood hubs.
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My 58cm Waterford 1900 (an older model ? a 2000) has a Shimano Ultegra 9spd crankset with 24(generic)/38/48 TA rings. No interferance issues, and it doesn't look like there's any offset on the drive side crank. I didn't build it up though, nor have I ever had to pull/or play with the crankset. Looks plenty nice to me though.

Is the Ultegra crank that goofy looking (to me) 10spd, or the 9spd?

I'd shy away from altering (indenting) the frame, doing so only as a last resort.

-Perhaps the newer 1900 models have very bowed out stays, where my setup above would prove useless as well?
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I'll take a look at the TA rings for a suggestions - I don't think that Waterford has made many changes in the 1900 over the years - how many miles on yours?
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Originally Posted by vosyer
- how many miles on yours?
I'm not sure, I've easily put 10000Km+ on it by now. I'm the second owner, the previous owner stated his mileage was low.

I haven't the foggiest idea how long my upcoming tour will be, but probably another 15000Km.
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It will be a incredible adventure I wish I had the time - good luck
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Originally Posted by vosyer
It will be a incredible adventure I wish I had the time - good luck
Thanks!
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