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Old 07-25-06, 06:19 PM
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Rear rack for 04 Sequoia XS?

Hi all, finally put on the Blackburn EX-1 rack on my SO's bike. Problem is that the Sequoia XS frame is so small that to reach the eyelets just behind the seat tube, the rack has to tilt down at about 20-25 degrees.
The front part of the rack is now underneath the seat, and there isn't enough room for her Tail Rider. I'm also concerned about what the tilt will do with loaded panniers.

I was thinking of getting the Blackburn MTN-1 rack, maybe it would still clear the 700c wheels but fit the frame better. Anybody run into this problem? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by flipped4bikes
Hi all, finally put on the Blackburn EX-1 rack on my SO's bike. Problem is that the Sequoia XS frame is so small that to reach the eyelets just behind the seat tube, the rack has to tilt down at about 20-25 degrees.
The front part of the rack is now underneath the seat, and there isn't enough room for her Tail Rider. I'm also concerned about what the tilt will do with loaded panniers.

I was thinking of getting the Blackburn MTN-1 rack, maybe it would still clear the 700c wheels but fit the frame better. Anybody run into this problem? Thanks!
There are a few fixes for this.

1. You can bend the stays so that the rack is level. If the rack stays aren't long enough, you can add to them by either getting another set of stays or there used to be short little stays made just for extending the stays. Maybe try Old Man Mountain for the extra stays.

2. Delta makes a rack with a height adjustment (see here). They aren't super strong but they do have a 40 lb capacity.

3. The ultimate would be a Tubus Cargo or Logo. Both have the best adjustment of any rack I've ever used. The rack stays are solid rods that attach to the underside of the rack and can be moved in any direction to get to the bicycle chainstays. However, this is not a cheap fix! The rack will hold more cargo than a normal human should carry but they are pricey!

There are a couple of other racks by Tubus but, personally, I wouldn't use the Fly or Luna because they are very narrow on top and would make holding a trunk bag difficult. The Fly and Luna also mount to the brake bridge on the bike rather than the chainstay. This isn't a problem if you have the hole in the brake bridge but none of my bikes do.

Attached is a picture of the Tubus on my touring bike. Even with the long stays, the Tubus is rock solid!
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That Tubus rack looks good. Is the Cannondale a mono seatstay design? The Sequoia has a monostay which is part of the problem. With frame being XS, the eyelets are so low, it'll require very long rack stays to reach. Does Blackburn sell longer than standard stays?

One rack I was looking at is the OMM White Rock. Has anyone adapted this rack to attach to seatstay eyelets?
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I ran into this problem once with that same rack and was able to buy more space by connecting the rack's stays (fully extended) to the seat binder bolt instead of the rack braze ons, which were a few inches lower. This will only work with certain kinds of seat binder set-ups, but check it out.

This obviously doesn't look as strong, but it worked out. This was on my wife's commuter that she carried all kinds of stuff on, so I imagine it would work for touring as well.
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Originally Posted by flipped4bikes
That Tubus rack looks good. Is the Cannondale a mono seatstay design? The Sequoia has a monostay which is part of the problem. With frame being XS, the eyelets are so low, it'll require very long rack stays to reach. Does Blackburn sell longer than standard stays?

One rack I was looking at is the OMM White Rock. Has anyone adapted this rack to attach to seatstay eyelets?
Yes it is a monostay but the bike is a 54cm frame so I didn't have fit issues. Tubus makes very long stays and, I think, ones that have a downward bend at the end. The Red Rock might work too. Rather than attach the rack to the brakes, you could extend the stays to the rack eyelets on the bike. I think that might be the most elegant solution.
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Originally Posted by flipped4bikes
That Tubus rack looks good. Is the Cannondale a mono seatstay design? The Sequoia has a monostay which is part of the problem. With frame being XS, the eyelets are so low, it'll require very long rack stays to reach. Does Blackburn sell longer than standard stays?

One rack I was looking at is the OMM White Rock. Has anyone adapted this rack to attach to seatstay eyelets?
The other option, since the Sequoia has side pull brakes is to mount the rack stay in the middle of the rack and attach the stay to the bike under the rear brake. I've done that before too. You have to bend the stay to make it fit but it's very stable. Most racks have a line of bolt holes down the center just for this purpose.
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I took some measurements of the bike last night. It's a whopping 13" distance from the lower eyelets to the seatstay eyelets and only 6.25" drop! A highly unusual rear triangle. I've been in contact with OMM and they proposed either clamps (d-rings?) to substitute for the seatstay eyelets or longer extenders for the rack. I measured the seat stays and they are 1.25" wide and a diameter of 3.75". Beefy. I'm also concerned about the integrity of very long extenders. I really hope something works...
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