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Old 12-02-06, 02:15 PM
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removal for packing: pedals or crank arms

Would it not be easier to remove the cranks when you have to ship your bike? A Allen wrench would be alot smaller and lighter (?) to pack then a pedal wrench assuming that your BB needs a Allen wrench to attach the cranks. Said wrench is also dual usage if your cranks loosen during your trip compared with a pedal wrench which only serves one purpose.

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Pedals are generally self-tightening as I understand it, so them falling off isn't usually a huge concern. You can also get pedals which can be tightened/loosened with Allen keys. Not sure of the sizes of key these require but as you said, an Allen key is light and small. But even if your pedal only has wrench flats, having them falling off is not a big problem so you could probably still get away with a relatively small pedal wrench like ones that come with multi-tools which are also lighter than full-size pedal wrenches.

If you're at home with a "regular" crankset and have a crank puller handy at home, I guess it wouldn't be much more difficult to take off the cranks before going to the airport and then reinstalling when you land with an Allen key. On the other hand, it takes a bit more to securely pack the crankarms, with pedals still attached, than just the pedals themselves.
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I wouldn't mess with your cranks. You can loosen the pedal at home and use your multi-tool to reinstall upon arrival. If you grease the pedal threads and don't go nuts tightening them up it should not be tough to get them off at the end of the trip. This all assumes you have pedals that you can get off with an allan key vs. ones that need a pedal wrench.
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I remove just the pedals and them insert them from the "wrong" side so they point into the frame, lock them to the frame witha cable tie
I know where they are and they stop the cranks turning in transit.

mine use an allen key for removal and retightening, its on my Alien Multi tool


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My multi tool came with a teeny pedal wrench. This wouldn't work for a pedal that has been on the bike forever, but if you take the pedals off to ship the bike at the beginning of the tour, and then lube the heck out of them when you install them to start riding, you should be able to use the multi tool's pedal wrench to remove them at the end of the ride. A rock makes an OK hammer. ;!

By the way, a tiny container (like a blistex container) of grease is a great addition to the toolkit.

Or, if they get really tight, you can also just ride by a bike shop the day before you are going to fly, loosen them there with a borrowed pedal wrench.

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Originally Posted by 5 more
Would it not be easier to remove the cranks when you have to ship your bike? A Allen wrench would be alot smaller and lighter (?) to pack then a pedal wrench assuming that your BB needs a Allen wrench to attach the cranks. Said wrench is also dual usage if your cranks loosen during your trip compared with a pedal wrench which only serves one purpose.

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If that is what you want to do there is nothing wrong with it but the hex wrench size on most crank bolts is 10mm, many multitools don't have a 10mm hex. a regular 10mm hex is definately heavier than a pedal wrench.
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instead of taking a heavy pedal wrench, just take a cone wrench.
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Originally Posted by 5 more
Would it not be easier to remove the cranks when you have to ship your bike? A Allen wrench would be alot smaller and lighter (?) to pack then a pedal wrench assuming that your BB needs a Allen wrench to attach the cranks. Said wrench is also dual usage if your cranks loosen during your trip compared with a pedal wrench which only serves one purpose.

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Hi,
I have an S & S coupled bike that packs into an airline legal (no extra charge) case.
I have self extracting crank bolts and pull the cranks (sometimes only the drive side) for packing.
This makes packing the bike easier and I don't worry about the chainrings tearing anything up.
My multitool allen is all that's needed.
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I think one has to look deeper at this, there may be different advice depending on what type of gear is in use. I use tapered BBs and cranks. They don't always respond well to tampering. My general experience is they loosen after 500 miles, and develop a click sound. After tht they are usually OK to remove, but sometimes they loosen again. It does require a wacking big wrench to tighten them properly, look at the pro tools. Of course you can just keep retightening them preiodically as they are loosened. I don't have much Octalink type gear, just one recumbent, and maybe they are better for this kind of serial removal. I have had a pedal start to loosen and then ream out the crank, before it really became obvious. This was new to me, aftere 40 years of cycling, all of a suden no pedal. It pays to keep them tight. A big wrench is the ticket if you need to remove them, but obviously it can be a problem for touring, weight wise. A cone wrench is a waif like substitute at best.
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My tourer has Eggbeater pedals that can be removed with an 8 mm Allen wrench, which takes up less space than a pedal wrench. I run a thread tap through the holes before I start the tour, so the pedals will go on and off smoothly. The Eggbeaters take up very little space in my checked baggage if I'm flying somewhere.

I've got a rather old Park pedal/headset wrench that's meant to be fastened onto the water bottle cage bolts, it's pretty strong but it's so short that you don't get much leverage. You could also have a compact pedal wrench to travel with by sawing off the handle on your pedal wrench. Either way it would be a good idea to remove the pedals shortly before the tour and clean out the threads in the crank arm with a thread tap.

Removing the whole crank arm means you've got two fairly bulky pieces of metal to contend with in your checked luggage or in whatever container your bike is in.
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