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Old 12-04-06, 02:39 AM
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Queries re Trekking bars / frame sizing?

Hi all

I'm considering trekking bars / Euro touring bars for a new tourer, probably based on Surly LHT, all MTB components. (Current tourer has drop bars with STI levers.)

Has anyone tried these and not been happy with them?

I can't quite get my head around how the reach to the bars will work out, due to the way they curve back in towards the rider. I'm looking for a slightly more upright position.

Should I favour a frame with top tube slightly longer than normal and a shorter stem? Current tourer has 56 cm top tube and 120mm stem which is maybe just a little cramped in the cockpit. On the other hand I have a road bike with 58 cm TT. (Horizontal eff lengths). Drop is about 9cm from saddle to bars on both and both bikes are comfortable on long rides.

Also undecided on wether to use something like the Rapidfire shifters or the Dual Control levers. Haven't even seen one of the latter in the flesh yet, presumably much like my Tiagra levers.

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I had trekking bars and didn't like them. They reduced the reach about 3 or 4 cm. That could of been made up by a longer stem but the over all ergonomics weren't working for me. I have a Zoom bar (same as Scott pictured below) I have been using 4 years now and it is very comfortable for me

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After adding these trekking bars I had to purchase a long adjustable stem to compensate for the closer position of the bars. I like 'em.

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I just got a set a few weeks ago and I am still experimenting with positioning them and with positioning the brake and shift levers.
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Thanks.

Losligato, your bke handles ok? I was worried about ending up with a really long stem and sloppy steering as a result.

I also meant to ask about the inside out position. Most photo's (on the loaded rigs site) show the bar ends on the rider side, but maybe 20% have them flipped over and the ends out front. More like the Zoom bar Velonomad mentions. Why do some people prefer this?

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I don't know if you can see the stem on mine in this pic:



I changed the stem to one with a bit of a rise to give a more upright position, without extending the bars too far forward.
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Link edited and pic now displayed.
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Thanks Lolly Pop

I get some idea of jsut how much rise you have as I can see a fixing bolt on the faceplate.

What are those things out front? More extensions? Or do you ahng something off them.

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Lolly Pop, What kind of mirror is that? I love my mirror on my regular bicycle. On my new (old touring bike) the bar end shifters are taking up valuable real estate. I've tried the mirrors on helmets and don't like them. Thanks in advance. Debbie
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The mirror is an old Rhode Gear Mountain Mirror. I have one on my trekking/touring bike and they are great , can be switched from left to right by just swivelling the mirror.
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Thanks fks. I got that mirror at Mountain Equipment Co-op in Canada. I gave it to an Australian woman touring Ireland this summer with her husband, as I never got it adjusted quite right!

Sholto, I added very short extension thingies just for the novelty of it. I had never used them before, but there was only one chance to put them on -- before adding all that complicated bar fat and tape -- so I went for it. Here's a link to the silver version of them:

short bar endsThey are fine -- I don't use them a lot, but they are handy for providing yet another possible position. I don't normally hang anything off them, but I did loop my flashing blinkie with my keys on them the other day.
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Here's a few more pics. These show the stem a bit better:





Hope that helps!
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Debbie, here is a link to the mirror:

MEC mirror

Not bad for under a fiver!
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I have a theory that most rear endings are caused by motorists drawn to take a look at themselves in your side mirror. Or perhaps it's an art of allowing thing...

Anyway:

"I also meant to ask about the inside out position. Most photo's (on the loaded rigs site) show the bar ends on the rider side, but maybe 20% have them flipped over and the ends out front. More like the Zoom bar Velonomad mentions. Why do some people prefer this?"

Some people with the bars turned in might legitimately have torsos of extreme short length, otherwise it's a thing like riding along with your drops turned around so they look like the horns of a bull, or barneds vertical. The correct postion is with the bar turned to the front. The basic thing a trecking bar does relative to a drop is that it retains the position on the tops; eliminates a decent position equivalent to using hoods (the best position in drops cycling); and extends you arms forward, rather than down to the drops. I think drops are mostly supoerior, they just need to be set with the hoods positioned at a comfortable height, then the drops are used when you have a heavy head wind, and the tops are used for tail winds and more upright occasional positions. With drops there are all kind sof inbetween positions, and the hands are rotated in the correct hand shake position.
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Originally Posted by Lolly Pop
Here's a few more pics. These show the stem a bit better:

Hope that helps!
Hey LP, next time you're out on tour with that bike, load & your camera...how about sharing you bike with the world? I'm sure it would be a favorite. https://www.fullyloadedtouring.com

My wife has been using Nashbar's trekking bar for many years and loves it. I can't live without my drop bars otherwise trekking bars are what I'd be using. I'm planning to put such a bar on my winter commuter bike though.

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