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Old 12-21-06, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Miles2go
To quote The Lone Ranger.... Whoa Kemosabe!

I didn't make it clear in my last post that the third party listings of a 20t small ring is in error. Again, the only thing I find wrong with this bike is that I'm going to need an additional $80 for a proper touring crankset to replace the 52-42-30 that it comes with. No biggy. And BTW, the Trek 520 has the same gearing up front.


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any tips about what sort of crank with better hauling/climbing gears could replace the stock one?

one that matches the existing bb would be nice but not necessary.
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I've been very impressed with the spec on the Sherpa (not a fan of the disc brake tabs because I've had problems mounting racks on bikes with disc tabs but... ) and I've been suggesting that people check them out so that maybe other companies will start making touring bike again if the bikes are a success.

But... A minor nitpick to the folks at Rocky Mountain (and other people who do this): Why put the spoke carrier on the left? The spoke carrier is a great idea and, when it started, the spokes were carried on the right chainstay. When they are carried there, they act as a great chainguard! The spokes won't get hurt by chainslap and you don't have to wrap the chainstay to protect it. Let's get it right, guys!
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I just got me a sherpa 30. I went up to a bike shop in Vancouver that stocks lots of Rocky Mountain bikes. I tried all the dealers in Washington but nobody has been able to keep many sherpa's in stock. The place I went to was called "Bikes on the Drive." They had 4 sherpa's in stock. 2 52's, a 55, and a 58. I thought I would be getting the 55 cuz I ride a 54 road frame. The salesperson told me the sherpa runs a little bit large and I found that to be true so I got the 52. I was able to ride both. He carries brooks saddles also, but didn't have the B-17 that I was after. He hopped on bike, rode three blocks to another shop and came back with the B-17.

These bikes appear to be going off the sales floor fast and they are becoming more difficult for the dealers to get. They told me once the ones on the floor are gone, they probably won't be able to get anymore until May or June.
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Photo's of my Rocky Mountain Sherpa 30. The bike is dirty. It just finished it's morning commute on the wet roads and bike paths. Quality of the photos isn't the best either... taken with a camera phone. But, I love riding this bicycle!!









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Rocky Mountain makes an awesome bike! I love mine! Hopefully folks will realize that this bike is every bit as good as (or in my opinion "better than") the Trek 520, Surly LHT, or Cannondale T800. Slap on Tubus racks, Ortlieb panniers, and a Brooks saddle and you have "The Bike!"
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It looks like the Sherpa 30 doesn't have Disc brake tabs, is this true? I thought it did.
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No, the Sherpa 30 does not have disc brake tabs or disc brakes. That would be the Sherpa 10 which is an aluminum frame.
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"The spokes won't get hurt by chainslap and you don't have to wrap the chainstay to protect it. Let's get it right, guys!"

Does sounds like it would be a mess getting into them and if a dirty chain is slapping on them all the time, they might be pretty nasty. I'm not saying you are wrong, it could be worth the trade-off over some other means of dealing with slap, but I am guessing that is the rationalization.

Personally I just put spokes in my bags. I think a spoke carrier is one of those things that looks hard core, but is actually just clutter. (snarky alert) I prefer to just build the wheels properly in the first place and leave the broken spokes problem to someone else.

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Originally Posted by Robert_in_ca
It looks like the Sherpa 30 doesn't have Disc brake tabs, is this true? I thought it did.
The pictures above, and the Rocky Mountain web site show disc brake tabs on the rear. I'm not sure if there are any on the front fork.

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Maybe I'm confused as to what disc tabs are. They aren't something I've ever considered. I asked the dealer about the Sherpa 10 that comes with discs and asked if that was an option on the Sherpa 30? He said "no." So I don't know if he meant that I couldn't by a Sherpa 30 with optional disc brakes or if he meant that I could not add disc brakes to the Sherpa 30 at a later time. I didn't press the issue, for my uses I'm not planning disc brakes. Call 'em up and ask...

(604)527-9993 that's the contact number from there website.

I made the call myself - they tell me that the bike has tabs for disc brakes. Someone earlier had asked about the reynolds 853 steel as only being used on the main triangle not on the stays.. I asked.. they said that this was also true .. quote "nobody uses 853 to build the stays on a bicycle."

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I just went through the process of researching all the touring bikes that I could find that exist and compared them buy specs and geometry on a spreadsheet. After test riding, physically looking the bikes over and checking out my LBS's for support the Sherpa 30 came 2nd on my list. The maxium tire width was a issue as was the gearing, I think most touring bikes are geared too high. I've never wanted a higher gear but I have often wanted a lower gear. For less than $150 more I ended up with a Cannondale T2000.A great touring bike right out of the box and better shifter/derailer components. You should note that the 2007 Sherpa 30 I looked at had Tiagra shifters not 105's as advertised. I use this bike for loaded touring but my impression was that the Sherpa 30 would work for touring, commuting and general riding. Happy hunting!
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Originally Posted by cyberpep
I just went through the process of researching all the touring bikes that I could find that exist and compared them buy specs and geometry on a spreadsheet. After test riding, physically looking the bikes over and checking out my LBS's for support the Sherpa 30 came 2nd on my list. The maxium tire width was a issue as was the gearing, I think most touring bikes are geared too high. I've never wanted a higher gear but I have often wanted a lower gear. For less than $150 more I ended up with a Cannondale T2000.A great touring bike right out of the box and better shifter/derailer components. You should note that the 2007 Sherpa 30 I looked at had Tiagra shifters not 105's as advertised. I use this bike for loaded touring but my impression was that the Sherpa 30 would work for touring, commuting and general riding. Happy hunting!
I liked the T2000 also... especially the components. After riding the T2000 and the Sherpa 30 I preferred the feel of steel vs. the aluminum frame of the T2000.
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Originally Posted by cyberpep
I just went through the process of researching all the touring bikes that I could find that exist and compared them buy specs and geometry on a spreadsheet. After test riding, physically looking the bikes over and checking out my LBS's for support the Sherpa 30 came 2nd on my list. The maxium tire width was a issue as was the gearing, I think most touring bikes are geared too high. I've never wanted a higher gear but I have often wanted a lower gear. For less than $150 more I ended up with a Cannondale T2000.A great touring bike right out of the box and better shifter/derailer components. You should note that the 2007 Sherpa 30 I looked at had Tiagra shifters not 105's as advertised. I use this bike for loaded touring but my impression was that the Sherpa 30 would work for touring, commuting and general riding. Happy hunting!
I did the same last year and bought the Sherpa 2006 (comes with 105's shifters ) , it works great for Commuting and it's excellant when fully loaded.
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Originally Posted by cyberpep
You should note that the 2007 Sherpa 30 I looked at had Tiagra shifters not 105's as advertised.
On the black 2007 Sherpa 30 pictured above you can see the end of the word Tiagra on the brifter.

Anyone have a sense for how much difference the 105 vs Tiagra brifters makes?

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I talked to a big RMB dealer in Vancouver today. Apparently the total yearly production of Sherpa 30's is 200 and they are all sold. They're built in Quebec, apparently in the factory that produced Mikados. So, good luck finding a dealer with one in stock.
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WOW! Only 200?? Now I feel fortunate to have one.
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Originally Posted by cyberpep
I just went through the process of researching all the touring bikes that I could find that exist and compared them buy specs and geometry on a spreadsheet. After test riding, physically looking the bikes over and checking out my LBS's for support the Sherpa 30 came 2nd on my list. The maxium tire width was a issue as was the gearing, I think most touring bikes are geared too high. I've never wanted a higher gear but I have often wanted a lower gear. For less than $150 more I ended up with a Cannondale T2000.A great touring bike right out of the box and better shifter/derailer components. You should note that the 2007 Sherpa 30 I looked at had Tiagra shifters not 105's as advertised. I use this bike for loaded touring but my impression was that the Sherpa 30 would work for touring, commuting and general riding. Happy hunting!
Cyberprep, any way you can share that spreadsheet? I'm starting to go thru the same process (comparing touring bikes)- although this thread may cut my work short- the Sherpa 30 looks like exactly what we're lookign for.
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Dellphinus, here is my touring bike spreadsheet. There are some not on it because they weren't available at any LBS near me. Happy hunting.
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Originally Posted by diesel_dad
I talked to a big RMB dealer in Vancouver today. Apparently the total yearly production of Sherpa 30's is 200 and they are all sold. They're built in Quebec, apparently in the factory that produced Mikados. So, good luck finding a dealer with one in stock.
Well, that explains why I haven't had replies from any of the Rocky Mountain dealers in Massachusetts...

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Got myself a brand new 2006 Sherpa in late April. My local Procycle dealer (Lessard Bicycles, Quebec City) still had two 2006s in stock (a 52 cm and a 58 ; I'm 6' with rather long legs so the 58 was a perfect fit), and a few more 2007 Sherpa 30s. The 2006 model is a little bit better equipped (105 vs. Tiagra brifters and front derailleur, Nokian vs. Kenda tires) and it was 200$ off since it's last year model. The 2006 Sherpa frame does have a rear disc brake mount, but the fork isn't disc brake ready. They ditched the disc mount on the 2007 Sherpa 30; instead the new aluminium Sherpa 10 comes standard with disc brakes. The disc mount wasn't a selling point for me (I don't plan on using it), but it doesn't get in the way of mounting the rear rack.

The bike rides very smoothly and handles with great stability. My only (slight) complain is with the saddle... it's not bad for a stock one, but I'm going to swap it for my old Terry Liberator Ti Race, which is more comfortable for me on long rides (I get a bit numb after ~40 km with the stock RMB saddle). I mounted my Zefal full fenders, and it still has plenty of clearance for 700x37c tires (I'm keeping the stock 28c Nokian Rollspeeds for now, they are pretty good on pavement). I also did the V-brake noodle trick on my shifter cables, to keep them out of the way of my large Arkel handlebar bag. And about the gearing, I'm satisfied with the 52-42-30 crankset... my last fully loaded tour was in BC, on a 52-42 double (yes it was somewhat painful in moments) so it's a large improvement for me, but I agree it may not be adequate for everyone.

I've yet to try it fully loaded, but the bike feels solid and I'm confident it'll cope well with all the extra weight.
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that 2006 is a sharp looking bike! I'm thinking of doing the v-brake noodle thing myself for my handlebar bag. I hope it's not true that rocky mountain is going to stop producing the sherpa. I think they have manufactured an awesome touring bike for the $'s. I have the 2007... hated the stock saddle - switched it out to a brooks B-17.
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AWESOME TOURING PLATFORM at a BARGAIN PRICE

That pretty well sums up my thoughts about the Rocky Mountain Sherpa after finally being able to load her up and hit the road.

We went on a rather punishing weekend tour and I did my best to hammer our Sherpa under a variety of conditions. Lots of climbing in and out of the saddle and many miles of fast 8% descents. On top of that, we had about five miles of somewhat rocky unpaved trail that I blasted through. The bike was an absolute joy to ride under all of these conditions.

This is no noodle once it's loaded down. I wasn't running my biggest panniers but had plenty of weight onboard. The missing volume was mainly in cold weather clothing. The Sherpa is impressively rigid where it needs to be which translates to excellent stability and makes for an efficient platform for out of the saddle climbing.

The racks mounted are the Tubus Tara in the front and the stainless steel Tubus Luna in the rear (original version with two upper stays). The panniers are Ortlieb Front Roller Plus in front and super heavy duty Arkel EX-Rs (no longer made) in the rear. Just like etdub said, there's no interference from the unused disc brake mounting tab.

I've heard good things about the Mavic A319s rims that come hand built on the Sherpa. The A319 is said to be suitable for tandem use. The stock Nokian tires did well but are narrower than I typically use. I'll probably be changing them out for some 32C Schwalbes (though it will take much larger tires and fenders).

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Originally Posted by cyberpep
After test riding, physically looking the bikes over and checking out my LBS's for support the Sherpa 30 came 2nd on my list. The maxium tire width was a issue as was the gearing, I think most touring bikes are geared too high. I've never wanted a higher gear but I have often wanted a lower gear. For less than $150 more I ended up with a Cannondale T2000.
I have a Cannondale T800 and the 06 RM Sherpa and the Sherpa has noticeably more tire clearance than the T Series Cannondales. Are you basing your tire clearance statement on the fact that the Sherpa comes with 28s installed? Mark the point on your lower chainstays at the tire sidewalls, remove the rear wheel and measure the inside to inside stay width. The Sherpa has an insane level of clearance. I'm fairly certain I could run Schwalbe 50-622 Big Apples and still have plenty of room for fenders (if anyone makes fenders that large). And according to Peter White Cycles' info on their "rims" page, I can run 60mm wide tires on the Mavic A319s.

But wait, I'm not done. Yes, you can spend the extra money and get marginally better shifting bits with the T2000 or the spend $100 or less of that extra money to buy the Sherpa a trekking crankset of your choice.

But wait, I'm not done. Speaking of the armed to the teeth hand built Sherpa frameset, it's simple as can be to mount any of the three Tubus racks I have to it. The T800 (and T2000) on the other hand needs extra long stays for mounting the rear racks and the T2000 is known to be very difficult to mount front racks to because of that straight "Fatty" fork. The T800 doesn't have that problem because it has a normal profile/raked touring fork. Just out of curiosity, what front rack did you mount to your T2000 if you installed one?

That said, I like Cannondale's touring bikes and my bottom line advice to shopping tourers is always that fit and comfort are by far more important than minor component differences.

For those looking for a 2007 RM Sherpa, one of my local shops had a couple in stock two weeks ago and they indicated that they might ship them. PM me if interested and I'll call the shop to confirm what they have on hand.

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From a few months back:

Originally Posted by Miles2go
Here are the goods:

Sorry about the image quality of some of these. I was rushed to get them snapped and hide the bike from my wife before she got home. Again, this is her birthday present from me.
Wow - what a thoughtful guy!
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Fast forward 3 mos:

We went on a rather punishing weekend tour and I did my best to hammer our Sherpa under a variety of conditions. Lots of climbing in and out of the saddle and many miles of fast 8% descents. On top of that, we had about five miles of somewhat rocky unpaved trail that I blasted through.
HA ha ha! Notice how it's "our" Sherpa now? And of course it has to be properly tested....

Sorry... couldn't resist... great review, Ron. Enjoy the bike!
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