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Old 12-11-06, 06:28 PM
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When you talk of knee pain

are you talking behind the knee cap or behind the leg where the knee cap is. I keep playing with my saddle and I dont think I can get it much higher.I think the pain is behind the knee cap or under the knee cap.Thanks for any replys.
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Can be anywhere, but the most comon type of not terribly serius pain is under the kneecap around the lower edge. It's a star-up problem. Bending that leg so the shin is parallel to the floor and lifting something, the underside of a chair, resisting a partner's downward force, is often a pretty instant cure if the knee is just a little off ballance.

You do not want to raise the seat too high, if the knee locks out (straightens) with every stroke that can play havock. You want the knee to remain bent slightly without starting to suck into the lock out possition, all through the spin. Too low and you start to feel the back of the leg muscles being overused, as though you were pulling in your heel. It should be a powerful quad action without lock-out or straightening, and the ass should remain flat not pulling from side to side over the seat. The downhill side of the kneecap should be over top of the pedal quill in it's most forward position.
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Originally Posted by George McClusky
are you talking behind the knee cap or behind the leg where the knee cap is. I keep playing with my saddle and I dont think I can get it much higher.I think the pain is behind the knee cap or under the knee cap.Thanks for any replys.
Is this is reference to a previous thread or are you asking what do people mean when they write "knee pain"?

If you are looking for general sources of information, the knee cap is called the patella. There are several sources of knee pain ... far too many to completely enumerate here.

In brief, if you feel the pain behind the knee cap, then the problem is often an issue of how the patella tracks as you pedal. I recall that muscle imbalance is a primary cause; but that there are other potential driving factors.

If the pain is below the knee cap, then the typical diagnosis is patella tendon inflation or tendenitis. As you might guess, the patella tendon is the big tendon that connects the patella to the tibia. Sometimes instead of the tendon getting inflamed, the patella bursa is inflamed; i.e., bursitis instead of tendonitis.

Here is a decent summary of the possible causes of knee pain ...
https://orthopedics.about.com/cs/knee...a/kneepain.htm

Raising or lowering ones seat is only one possible adjustment. Another is to change the degree of float--or change pedals--if you use clipless pedals. You can also move your seat forwards or backwards. You can also change the length of the crank arm.

Arnie Baker wrote a good book that includes a section on different types of riding-related ailments and possible solutions. The title of the book is "Bicycling Medicine: Cycling Nutrition, Physiology, Injury Prevention and Treatment For Riders of All Levels".

As you might guess, I recently went through a bout of knee pain. I fell on the right knee which resulted in a fatty padding impingement. Unfortunately, it is diagnosed after a whole bunch of alternatives are eliminated as possibilities. So it took me a while to recover.

Searching the over 50 forum resulted in a lot of good information. You might want to talk to a doctor/orthopedist at some point as well.

Good luck.
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Thanks guys,it's not from a previous thread. I bought another Brooks saddle and the one I had before I could go quite a while and not feel any pain at all.That's what got me going with this one,I must of hit it lucky with the first on.My clipless are in the same place and I have to keep the saddle all the way back,plus I keep it level,so the only thing it could be is the height of the saddle. So I do have the pain under the knee cap.I just wanted to make sure I was getting the behind the knee bit right. So it's on the back of the leg you lower it.Thanks a lot,George
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