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Old 12-12-06, 12:26 PM
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Route across ontario-michigan?

Thinking of taking a tour across norther nnew york, crossing into ontario, then riding the length of ontario and corssing into michigan somewheres..

Any one got any good route tips? I can get myself to ontario, probably crossing at cornwall, ont or odgensburg NY into ontario..after that, I'm lost..

anyone every use these maps/guides?
https://www.bikeontours.on.ca/custom.htm
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Hi,
The easterly portion of the trip will be on the Waterfront Trail. It runs along the north shore of Lake Ontario all the way to Niagara. You would want to leave it and take a run up over the Niagara penninsula (there are two rail trails coming out of Hamilton) and do the north shore of Lake Erie. There is a short rail trail that runs into Windsor (across from Detroit).

I've done almost all of that route. the north shore of Erie is the worst part.
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wow. thanks. that's like my entire route..already planned.

how many crossings are there from ont-mi?
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You might look at the Lake Erie Connector route by Adventure Cycling. runs from Fort Erie along the northern shore of Lake Erie into Michigan. Crosses the St Claire River at Marina City on a small ferry.
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The bridge at Ogdensburg does not allow bikes. I have heard about cyclists that have crossed it (no-one stopped them) but the lanes are narrow and the transports scary (there is no sidewalk). The 1000 Islands bridge does allow cyclists on the sidewalk. Occasionally the sidewalk is closed for maintenance or a code orange alert, but then the bridge authority will drive you across on a truck. Another option is the ferry from Cape Vincent to Wolf Island and another ferry to Kingston.
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I've done the entire distance you are asking about over the course of three tours around Lakes Erie, Huron and Ontario.

The waterfront trail along the North Shore of Lake Ontario is pretty good. There are a few rough sections where you travel on dirt and narrow rock paths. The rest of it is mainly paved lanes. You can join the trail by crossing into Ontario from Cape Vincent US. The US ferry to Wolfe Island costs a few dollars. The Wolfe Island ferry to Kingston is located on the other end of the island and is free. Timing is trickier with the US ferry as well.

The last provincial park before Toronto is Darlington. It was a nice place to camp but the trip through Toronto the next day could be long. You might consider heading North around Toronto. You gain distance and some hills but also the ability to get on to some nice farm roads.

Once you exit Toronto you could head south hugging the lake until between Hamilton and Toronto. Head west at that point taking care to look for roads that are small farm lanes. These are usually paved with little traffic. Plan your route to head south of Kitchener/Waterloo as you head West.

The remainder of the way west you can continue on nice farm lanes. There is no need to stay on numbered highways like Hwys 2, 3, 4, and 8. These are all relatively busy and unpleasant to ride compared to the farm lanes.

Plan your border crossing point with care. Detroit does not allow bicycles across the bridge, tunnel or on the buses. Sarnia/Port Huron apparently has a shuttle truck of some sort but I've heard of a requirement to prove that you aren't local and a longish delay in some cases. All my info on this is old as well so check to make sure it's still an option.

Crossing at Sombra, Ontario leaves you well positioned to head north on relatively low traffic roads or to determine a route South as you continue in the US. This is another ferry crossing but you are allowed to move to the front of the line when you have a bicycle. I believe that the cost was about a dollar when I crossed during my Lake Huron tour.

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Adventure Cycling has a route:

https://www.adv-cycling.org/routes/lakeerie.cfm
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a real highlight is to cross over from Ontario to Michigan at Marine City, MI . THe ferry boat crossing for bikes is the best way to go.
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If your going in through Niagra and going south, you can cross at Windsor, and then go into Detroit
Windsor is OK for cycling, Detroit may kind of suck

Therer are two ways to cross over, the tunnel or bridge
Neither allows bicycles on/in them, therefore you have to hop onto a 'tunnel bus' to get accross, this costs about $2.50

If you have any more questions about crossing here just let me know, I live in Windsor and cross the border every day to go to school
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Also, some guy mentioned that you can't bring bikes on the busses, that's not true as many busses in Windsor have bike racks on the front of them
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Personally, I'd prefer touring across the northern part of Michigan. Lots less traffic. I'd go around the thumb, then cross the state from like Tawas to Ludington. Just you need research some back roads.
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I assume you are not actually wanting to take a northern route through the province, since you mention Michigan. Ontario does get as far as Minnesota on the northerly beat. A lot of this trip will be through some of the most poluted parts of North America. Toronto is bad enough but a haze of polution sits over much of the province downwind of Detrot/Widsor. It's an area of elevated cancer etc...

The route to Toronto is pretty nice I would do it again in a heartbeat. I can't see much reason to go on to Detroit on a bike. There are just so many nicer places to ride than what your route would take you. Even Niagara falls, which is wonderful, is kinda a circus with a plume of moist dioxin floating over the place. I would recomend northern ontario except those who have travelled there by bike on the trans-can seem to hate it. I normally go there for Canoeing which is a whole other trip.

You might try Ken Kifer's site https://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/

He did some loops through northern Michigan and Ontario that sound a lot prettier.

I slept under the 1000 Island bridge one night, and another guy there on a bike said it was pretty difficult to cross, so narrow he had to remove pedals and offset his handlebars, so a pedal wrench might be a good thing to have.

Wolf Island is really nice. The US ferry is a fairweather friend so get a reliable schedule. The only problem is that you miss some pretty nice stuff over in Ontario if you don't cross until Kingston. The south side of the St. Lawrence River always seems hiller to me, could be wrong. From Cornwall to Kingston is a very easy bike ride and picturesque on the whole. It's all mildly uphill. The whole trip to Michigan, is globaly speaking, up hill.

Personally, If I was going through Toronto, I would stick to the waterfront trail, though it dies at rouge hill, going west, but there are nice roads to take and other bike trails. This is urban cycling, but TO drivers are a considerate bunch, so it really comes down to your sense of security in urban cycling. If you go north you end up with more navigation and continuity problems, and all you really get to see is suburban sprawl, of course if you go far enough north you will end up in the country, as mentioned, but that is a totally different ride with probably at least an extra day. It would make sense though if you decided to give the southern Ontario/Detroit option a try.
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My experience with the Windsor bus system was in 2003. I crossed via bus by talking the driver into it after first calling the Windsor transit dispatch office. I had a fully loaded touring bicycle with four saddlebags and a handlebar bag. At the time the bus did not have front racks.

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If you are planning to ride the full length of Ontario to the Manitoba border ....

I'd recommend crossing at Sault Ste. Marie from Ontario into Michigan ... onto the upper peninsula of Michigan, and then go with Hwy 28 all the way across to Wisconsin. Then you can cut through northern Wisconsin, and then back into Canada again from Minnesota.

In western Ontario, the area around Kenora and Dryden is very nice (I've cycled in that area frequently), but I have heard that once you get east of Thunder Bay the traffic gets really heavy and the roads aren't so good for cyclists.

Rowan and I drove Hwy 28 through Michigan's upper peninsula (the opposite direction - from western Canada to Boston) last summer on our way to the Boston-Montreal-Boston, and it was lovely! In the middle of August there was hardly any traffic, decent roads, and great views of Lake Superior!! The beaches along the way were beautiful, but practically deserted! It was a cyclist's paradise!
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I was supposed to go around Lake Superior last summer but took care of Lake Ontario instead. This upcoming summer I plan to end my Great Lakes tours with a circle around Lake Superior. Thanks for giving me some advance notice of what the roads are like on the southern side of the lake.

When I went around Lake Huron the traffic was a bit intense on Highway 17/Trans Canada Highway between Saulte Ste. Marie and Espanola but not as bad as I imagined it would be.

I've heard that the TransCanada Highway can be really busy from ThunderBay to the junction of Highways 17 and 11. Once past the split traffic apparently lightens with most trucks heading Northeast on Highway 11 to avoid the hills on 17 between ThunderBay and Saulte Ste Marie.

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Originally Posted by Machka
If you are planning to ride the full length of Ontario to the Manitoba border ....

I'd recommend crossing at Sault Ste. Marie from Ontario into Michigan ... onto the upper peninsula of Michigan, and then go with Hwy 28 all the way across to Wisconsin.

Rowan and I drove Hwy 28 through Michigan's upper peninsula (the opposite direction - from western Canada to Boston) last summer on our way to the Boston-Montreal-Boston, and it was lovely! In the middle of August there was hardly any traffic, decent roads, and great views of Lake Superior!! The beaches along the way were beautiful, but practically deserted! It was a cyclist's paradise!
I too would love to do a bike tour in the UP. Machka. Been years since we went across M 28. The UP is some of my favorite real estate in the whole world. But, M 28. How are the shoulders? As I recall none?
Adventure Cycling as a map of the UP. They recommend US 2 across the south end of the UP. Says the shoulders are wider? I'd prefer M 28 for scenery and sights. If it is safe. Adventure Cycling had some negative comments about M 28 as I recall .
I too prefer the north of Michigan. As some say, Michigan starts at about Bay City, Muskegon line. South of that there are few evergreens. For the most part, Looks more like a somewhat hillier, Ohio?
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I found US2 kind of boring when I went around Lake Michigan. I recall that while the shoulders were ok, it was really flat and relatively boring. When I circled Lake Huron I enjoyed the hills and even though I might regret this later I am really looking forward to Lake Superior at least partly due to the hills.

Bay City did represent a real change from the more southern parts of Michigan for me too. It's more like a horizontal line drawn through Michigan state since the same seemed to be true of the thumb on the east side and the area north of Michigan City on the west.

Michigan is so far my favourite US state to tour. The part around Detroit wasn't the greatest but everything else was wonderful. The people are nice and unless it's recently changed the state parks will accept touring cyclists even when the campgrounds are full.

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The shoulders were probably not as wide as they are here in Alberta, but wider than they are in Manitoba. Does that help?

The main thing, though, was the lack of traffic and lack of people (especially tourists) even in mid-August. There was hardly anyone out there! We were stunned when we stopped at one of the beaches (which would have been wall-to-wall people on a lovely sunny day, if the same beach were here in Alberta) and discovered that it was deserted but for about half a dozen people.
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I'd recommend crossing at Sault Ste. Marie from Ontario into Michigan ... onto the upper peninsula of Michigan, and then go with Hwy 28 all the way across to Wisconsin. Then you can cut through northern Wisconsin, and then back into Canada again from Minnesota.
bump. this is just what i asked in my other thread. if this route is nice, is the route getting to ontario from new york OK? i'm trying to get from the city, through ont, through the UP and into minneapolis...
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