recommend a COMFORTABLE touring bike?
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recommend a COMFORTABLE touring bike?
Greetings -
I'm looking for recommendations for a bike that'll be used for a (not particularly taxing) daily commute, jaunts around town, and touring. No MTB, no off-road trails.
I currently have a 15-year-old hybrid Aquila, a boutique brand from Racer Sportif in Toronto. It was (and is) a good bike (particularly in its day), but to make it comfortable for me, I had to replace the straight handlebars with drop-downs, and get a significantly longer stem.
Since suffering a ruptured disc (L5-S1) 1.5 years ago, and subsequent (successful) surgery, I can no longer
cycle comfortably on the bike, and so am looking for a replacement.
The key factors are:
1) comfort (relaxed geometry, relatively upright riding position)
2) weight (the sucker should be reasonably light)
3) rack/pannier friendly
Happily, I'm not unduly constrained by budget, but can't really justfy spending more than $2K US, and then only if I can really feel it in the ride (comfort, handling, shifting). If I can find something suitable for half that, so much the better.
I rode a 54cm Specialized Tricross Sport the other day ($1K), which I found to be rather comfortable -- not crazy about the shifters, tho. (I've got the old-fashioned end of handlbar kind.) The shop didn't have a Tricross Comp available in my size to try. I also rode a Specialized Roubaix, which I did *not* find particularly comfortable -- it required me to be pitched forward more than was comfortable.
Any and all recommendations / suggestions welcome.
Thanks.
- Richard
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I'm looking for recommendations for a bike that'll be used for a (not particularly taxing) daily commute, jaunts around town, and touring. No MTB, no off-road trails.
I currently have a 15-year-old hybrid Aquila, a boutique brand from Racer Sportif in Toronto. It was (and is) a good bike (particularly in its day), but to make it comfortable for me, I had to replace the straight handlebars with drop-downs, and get a significantly longer stem.
Since suffering a ruptured disc (L5-S1) 1.5 years ago, and subsequent (successful) surgery, I can no longer
cycle comfortably on the bike, and so am looking for a replacement.
The key factors are:
1) comfort (relaxed geometry, relatively upright riding position)
2) weight (the sucker should be reasonably light)
3) rack/pannier friendly
Happily, I'm not unduly constrained by budget, but can't really justfy spending more than $2K US, and then only if I can really feel it in the ride (comfort, handling, shifting). If I can find something suitable for half that, so much the better.
I rode a 54cm Specialized Tricross Sport the other day ($1K), which I found to be rather comfortable -- not crazy about the shifters, tho. (I've got the old-fashioned end of handlbar kind.) The shop didn't have a Tricross Comp available in my size to try. I also rode a Specialized Roubaix, which I did *not* find particularly comfortable -- it required me to be pitched forward more than was comfortable.
Any and all recommendations / suggestions welcome.
Thanks.
- Richard
[richard AT oldWithoutMoney DOT c o m]
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So many ways you can go with this.
There is a bike shop in Toronto than makes a nice tourer off an imported steel frame. They get good reviews and would be able to give you the relaxed geometry you want: https://ucycle.com/bikes/item.php?nam...r&cat=urbanite
There is a bike shop in Toronto than makes a nice tourer off an imported steel frame. They get good reviews and would be able to give you the relaxed geometry you want: https://ucycle.com/bikes/item.php?nam...r&cat=urbanite
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Originally Posted by expatCanuck
Greetings -
I'm looking for recommendations for a bike that'll be used for a (not particularly taxing) daily commute, jaunts around town, and touring. No MTB, no off-road trails.
I currently have a 15-year-old hybrid Aquila, a boutique brand from Racer Sportif in Toronto. It was (and is) a good bike (particularly in its day), but to make it comfortable for me, I had to replace the straight handlebars with drop-downs, and get a significantly longer stem.
Since suffering a ruptured disc (L5-S1) 1.5 years ago, and subsequent (successful) surgery, I can no longer
cycle comfortably on the bike, and so am looking for a replacement.
The key factors are:
1) comfort (relaxed geometry, relatively upright riding position)
2) weight (the sucker should be reasonably light)
3) rack/pannier friendly
Happily, I'm not unduly constrained by budget, but can't really justfy spending more than $2K US, and then only if I can really feel it in the ride (comfort, handling, shifting). If I can find something suitable for half that, so much the better.
I rode a 54cm Specialized Tricross Sport the other day ($1K), which I found to be rather comfortable -- not crazy about the shifters, tho. (I've got the old-fashioned end of handlbar kind.) The shop didn't have a Tricross Comp available in my size to try. I also rode a Specialized Roubaix, which I did *not* find particularly comfortable -- it required me to be pitched forward more than was comfortable.
Any and all recommendations / suggestions welcome.
Thanks.
- Richard
[richard AT oldWithoutMoney DOT c o m]
I'm looking for recommendations for a bike that'll be used for a (not particularly taxing) daily commute, jaunts around town, and touring. No MTB, no off-road trails.
I currently have a 15-year-old hybrid Aquila, a boutique brand from Racer Sportif in Toronto. It was (and is) a good bike (particularly in its day), but to make it comfortable for me, I had to replace the straight handlebars with drop-downs, and get a significantly longer stem.
Since suffering a ruptured disc (L5-S1) 1.5 years ago, and subsequent (successful) surgery, I can no longer
cycle comfortably on the bike, and so am looking for a replacement.
The key factors are:
1) comfort (relaxed geometry, relatively upright riding position)
2) weight (the sucker should be reasonably light)
3) rack/pannier friendly
Happily, I'm not unduly constrained by budget, but can't really justfy spending more than $2K US, and then only if I can really feel it in the ride (comfort, handling, shifting). If I can find something suitable for half that, so much the better.
I rode a 54cm Specialized Tricross Sport the other day ($1K), which I found to be rather comfortable -- not crazy about the shifters, tho. (I've got the old-fashioned end of handlbar kind.) The shop didn't have a Tricross Comp available in my size to try. I also rode a Specialized Roubaix, which I did *not* find particularly comfortable -- it required me to be pitched forward more than was comfortable.
Any and all recommendations / suggestions welcome.
Thanks.
- Richard
[richard AT oldWithoutMoney DOT c o m]
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I'm in the U.S. (Boston area).
I plan to check out Harris Cyclery later today to check out the Surly offerings -- they may have a Long Haul Trucker I could check out.
Budget is < $2k (but less is more).
I plan to check out Harris Cyclery later today to check out the Surly offerings -- they may have a Long Haul Trucker I could check out.
Budget is < $2k (but less is more).
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Originally Posted by expatCanuck
I'm in the U.S. (Boston area).
I plan to check out Harris Cyclery later today to check out the Surly offerings -- they may have a Long Haul Trucker I could check out.
Budget is < $2k (but less is more).
I plan to check out Harris Cyclery later today to check out the Surly offerings -- they may have a Long Haul Trucker I could check out.
Budget is < $2k (but less is more).
Also check out some the offerings by Marinoni, such as the Turismo. If I'm not mistaken they do custom geometry at reasonable pieces, so they might be able to offer suggestions to help with your back.
https://www.marinoni.qc.ca/EN/Bikes/Touring/Turismo.htm
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Take a look at the geometry of the Trek Navigator series of bikes. Before anyone shoots me, let me make clear that I'm NOT suggesting that a Navigator is what you're looking for, because you'd end up changing out the handlebars, shifters, brakes, fork, complete drivetrain and wheels to get what you're looking for. What I'm suggesting, however, is that if you happen to be in a Trek shop, take a spin on one. It is the most upright / relaxed bike that I know of without going to something like a Townie or a recumbant. The componentry on the Navigator is a bunch of crap, but if somehow you could find a bike with similar geometry but decent components, you'd probably have a super-comfort tourer that would be easy on your back.
Just a thought....
Just a thought....
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Originally Posted by seeker333
How about a recumbent?
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Considerations
Richard,
Ever consider a recumbent? The bike may be just what your back is asking for, comfortable seating, the road vibrations are better dampened through a longer wheelbase and hits you differently than a wedge (up right). Recumbents usually can accept the same type of panniers as traditional bikes
Enjoy
Journey On
chris
Ever consider a recumbent? The bike may be just what your back is asking for, comfortable seating, the road vibrations are better dampened through a longer wheelbase and hits you differently than a wedge (up right). Recumbents usually can accept the same type of panniers as traditional bikes
Enjoy
Journey On
chris
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With your back, I doubt you will be camping. So would be correct to assume your touring will involve motels and not tents?
If it does, you don't need a touring bike. Just as an example, the Surly Pacer is what I think of as their best bike. For lite touring and riding it would be a better choice ( but the frame does weigh! You can lose quite a bit of weight by ditching the Surly fork, it is amazingly heavy.
https://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB='2789-35'
Belmont Wheelworks had a 54cm IF touring bike for years, they may still have it. It was there in the winter. The price is absurd, if it fits. The whole bike costs
less than the just the frame would at today's prices. I guess the harvard kids consider touring beneath them.
Back Bay Bike in Portland has a Burley touring bike for about $1600 in what I think is a 54cm, might be a 56. It may be less, and it's also on sale. I have ridden it. It's a really sweet bike, I wish I had an excuse to buy it.
ooops, I am wrong, it's 1489
https://www.backbaybicycle.com/specials.htm
Just FYI, I ride a Gunnar Sport, and it's terrific. As far as lite touring goes, I rode it coast to coast across Italy.
https://www.gunnarbikes.com/sport.php
Mine doesn't look anything like the one in the picture, I have 28c tires on it. the bars are higher than the seat by a hair, and it has a leather saddle and an English saddlebag. Old School, you might say.
If it does, you don't need a touring bike. Just as an example, the Surly Pacer is what I think of as their best bike. For lite touring and riding it would be a better choice ( but the frame does weigh! You can lose quite a bit of weight by ditching the Surly fork, it is amazingly heavy.
https://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB='2789-35'
Belmont Wheelworks had a 54cm IF touring bike for years, they may still have it. It was there in the winter. The price is absurd, if it fits. The whole bike costs
less than the just the frame would at today's prices. I guess the harvard kids consider touring beneath them.
Back Bay Bike in Portland has a Burley touring bike for about $1600 in what I think is a 54cm, might be a 56. It may be less, and it's also on sale. I have ridden it. It's a really sweet bike, I wish I had an excuse to buy it.
ooops, I am wrong, it's 1489
https://www.backbaybicycle.com/specials.htm
Just FYI, I ride a Gunnar Sport, and it's terrific. As far as lite touring goes, I rode it coast to coast across Italy.
https://www.gunnarbikes.com/sport.php
Mine doesn't look anything like the one in the picture, I have 28c tires on it. the bars are higher than the seat by a hair, and it has a leather saddle and an English saddlebag. Old School, you might say.
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I have back trouble, and some other problems, and went to a recumbent. I didn't really like it or find it more comfortable. In the end, though I have several damaged discs, I just found a standard bike with drops was the most comfortable for me.
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I love my Jamis Aurora
does Harris carry them?
anyway, nice practically priced steel tour bike
does Harris carry them?
anyway, nice practically priced steel tour bike
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Since you say you'll be doing in-town rides most of the time, I can highly recommend the Trek 520 as an all-rounder. I use mine for commutes, family rides and weekend club rides. At purchase, I swapped out for an adjustable Ritchey stem that brings the bars higher up for me, since I don't want to reach so much. I don't yet have back trouble, and I'm trying to keep it that way.
The 520 still surprises me in my first full year of riding it. I can ride pacelines (within reason), roll up the steepest hills in the area (slowly but surely), and tow my 4-year old's Trail A Bike down the local rail trail. And I'm a mid-40's Clydesdale at 210.
Just my two cents. Good luck with your search, and you're lucky to have Harris Cyclery in your back yard. I'd like to visit there sometime.
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The 520 still surprises me in my first full year of riding it. I can ride pacelines (within reason), roll up the steepest hills in the area (slowly but surely), and tow my 4-year old's Trail A Bike down the local rail trail. And I'm a mid-40's Clydesdale at 210.
Just my two cents. Good luck with your search, and you're lucky to have Harris Cyclery in your back yard. I'd like to visit there sometime.
Cheers,
Ken
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Originally Posted by SoonerLater
Take a look at the geometry of the Trek Navigator series of bikes. Before anyone shoots me, let me make clear that I'm NOT
I agree with the recumbent idea. The OP needs to test more of them.
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Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve
I agree with the recumbent idea. The OP needs to test more of them.
I've tried 'em. Don't like 'em.
Being down that low makes me *very* uncomfortable, both on pedestrian/bike paths and on roadways with motorized traffic.
YMMV.
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Originally Posted by Sigurdd50
I love my Jamis Aurora
does Harris carry them?
anyway, nice practically priced steel tour bike
does Harris carry them?
anyway, nice practically priced steel tour bike
But I will be trying a Bianchi Volpe 55 there later today.
Seems comparable to the Aurora.
- Richard
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Originally Posted by CyKKlist
Since you say you'll be doing in-town rides most of the time, I can highly recommend the Trek 520 as an all-rounder. ...
Cheers,
Ken
Cheers,
Ken
Thanks. Indeed a nice bike, but at 21" or 23" sizing (which, * 2.54, comes in at 53.3 and 58.4), may not work well for me -- 54-55 tends to be my sweet spot.
- Richard
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Originally Posted by cuffydog
What about a Breezer Range Bike?
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Originally Posted by expatCanuck
No, he doesn't.
I've tried 'em. Don't like 'em.
Being down that low makes me *very* uncomfortable, both on pedestrian/bike paths and on roadways with motorized traffic.
YMMV.
- Richard
I've tried 'em. Don't like 'em.
Being down that low makes me *very* uncomfortable, both on pedestrian/bike paths and on roadways with motorized traffic.
YMMV.
- Richard
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Richard,
I test rode a Tricross and was very comfortable on it. I ended up buying a used 21" 520 and that size/geometry felt very good too. I would highy recommend trying it if for nothing else to see what its like. Also, the Fuji Touring is not a bad choice either.
I test rode a Tricross and was very comfortable on it. I ended up buying a used 21" 520 and that size/geometry felt very good too. I would highy recommend trying it if for nothing else to see what its like. Also, the Fuji Touring is not a bad choice either.
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Originally Posted by expatCanuck
Greetings -
...The key factors are:
1) comfort (relaxed geometry, relatively upright riding position)
2) weight (the sucker should be reasonably light)
3) rack/pannier friendly
Happily, I'm not unduly constrained by budget, but can't really justfy spending more than $2K US, and then only if I can really feel it in the ride (comfort, handling, shifting). If I can find something suitable for half that, so much the better.
I rode a 54cm Specialized Tricross Sport the other day ($1K), which I found to be rather comfortable -- not crazy about the shifters, tho. (I've got the old-fashioned end of handlbar kind.) The shop didn't have a Tricross Comp available in my size to try. I also rode a Specialized Roubaix, which I did *not* find particularly comfortable -- it required me to be pitched forward more than was comfortable.
Any and all recommendations / suggestions welcome.
Thanks.
- Richard
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...The key factors are:
1) comfort (relaxed geometry, relatively upright riding position)
2) weight (the sucker should be reasonably light)
3) rack/pannier friendly
Happily, I'm not unduly constrained by budget, but can't really justfy spending more than $2K US, and then only if I can really feel it in the ride (comfort, handling, shifting). If I can find something suitable for half that, so much the better.
I rode a 54cm Specialized Tricross Sport the other day ($1K), which I found to be rather comfortable -- not crazy about the shifters, tho. (I've got the old-fashioned end of handlbar kind.) The shop didn't have a Tricross Comp available in my size to try. I also rode a Specialized Roubaix, which I did *not* find particularly comfortable -- it required me to be pitched forward more than was comfortable.
Any and all recommendations / suggestions welcome.
Thanks.
- Richard
[richard AT oldWithoutMoney DOT c o m]
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Tire pressure has strong effects on comfort. Sheldon Brown talks about this on his site, and it's easy to confirm yourself. Many cyclists are brainwashed into thinking that higher pressures are more important than they really are -- and they get unnecessarily harsh and punishing rides this way.
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Fit can be a very individual thing. Your back problems may be lessened by some special postures. There are many variations possible. Handlebar height and reach (in relation to saddle position) is highly individualizable.
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A suspension seatpost might also help with back comfort.
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Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve
They become very uncomfortable for longer rides because you'll be sitting straight up for all the ruts, bumps and potholes! You have to practically lift up your whole body and this gets tiring after awhile so you end up siting down on all the road disruptions.
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Originally Posted by becnal
With wide tires and a Brooks saddle, no need to stand up over rough surfaces. Very comfy.