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Old 03-17-08, 08:26 AM
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Arkel T-42 & Ortlieb Backroller, pics please?

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Does anyone have a picture they can post of either one of these panniers showing the opening with the bag open? I can't find a local shop that has either of these in stock and I'd like to get a better idea of how they work and open up and so forth. Mounted on a bike with the pannier open would be great to see what loading it might be like. Feel free to get creative with the pics.

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Here are a couple shots showing the back rollers open and closed. It is a very simple, but practical design. Easy to load - 100% waterproof.

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Thank you. So it looks like they're pretty much an open top, and they roll to close (hence their name), correct? Appreciate the pics.
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Originally Posted by treebound
Thank you. So it looks like they're pretty much an open top, and they roll to close (hence their name), correct? Appreciate the pics.
Yes that's correct. It is a simple system - no zippers to worry about durable and easy to use. You can also strap things on top if you like. You can also see one of the additional pockets on the back of the front pannier in the top picture. I've added these to all my Ortlieb panniers. They are useful to keep smaller items at the ready or stove fuel separate from the rest of your gear.
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Sorry no pics...the T42 has a three side perimeter zipper that opens the sides and top on the outside of the pannier. You are correct if you assume this is not a waterproof arrangement. You must use the raincovers with them. They are easy to load because the whole side can flop down (or as much as you choose to unzip...2 way zipper). The t42 are brililiantly constructed, beautifully crafted and not waterproof. I nearly drilled holes in the bottoms to let the water out!
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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind, and if I go with the T-42's I'll keep a drill bit handy as well.

I actually kind of like bags that breath a little, lets some of the moisture escape from inside the bags. I've had the musty sock smell in more waterproof bags before for camping stuff.
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I have actually toured with T42 in rainy climes and as long as you are willing to use the covers they are pretty waterproof. I have ortleib handlebar bags and I think that you could scuba dive with them. I do not have ortleib pannier. I prefer the side access of the T42 and really like the nets on the outside.....you can dry last night's laundry or stash road litter for convenient redisposal. I did not want to sound too negative, but if waterproof is what you demand the ortleib is hard to beat.
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I've got Arkel's front and back and I'll take zippers on three sides over waterproof anyday. I use plastic compression bags to compact clothing and sleeping bag, so why would I need waterproof?
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Originally Posted by treebound
Hi,

Does anyone have a picture they can post of either one of these panniers showing the opening with the bag open? I can't find a local shop that has either of these in stock and I'd like to get a better idea of how they work and open up and so forth. Mounted on a bike with the pannier open would be great to see what loading it might be like. Feel free to get creative with the pics.

Thank you.
I have arkels and - maybe this is a 'new' feature - they have waterproof bags inside them. I will try to post some photos for you of them. I have used them - in the rain - and had no problems. I will admit though that - while I love the zippers and pockets for ease of use on the road - they are MUCH MUCH heavier than my friend's ortliebs.
Let me know if you have already bought your packs. There is a great source for ortliebs in the U.S. I bought my arkels direct from the company in Canada and they were great to deal with.
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Ya know, I never really considered the issue of smells being trapped inside a waterproof bag. Hmmm.
I was planning on getting a Detours Toocan H20 waterproof rolltop bag for use as my daily gym bag that I can throw on the back of my rack, but perhaps that might not be the best idea? Don't want the bag to become a stench bag, if ya know what I mean. Yeah, I suppose that if I'm dilligent about removing the damp clothes promptly, it shouldn't be a big deal, but I'm frequently lazy, and only take the clothes out the next day when it's time to reload with fresh stuff. Who'da thunk it.....
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