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Old 03-26-08, 11:20 PM
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bike pedal/shoe question

ok me and some friends are doing a cross country bike tour and i have a new surly long haul trucker with 26" wheels and i was looking for some pedals/shoes to use and am somewhat confused..i am likely to buy from nashbar bike website and confused about what shoes are compatible with what pedals...i was looking at road pedals on the site and cant tell. With that being said what shoes/pedals do u recommend that would total 200-300 total for my bike trip that are obviouslycompatible. And also what tubes i should get for my bike..i got the bike from the jensonusa site and it has 26" wheels and confused on what tubes work for this
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Old 03-26-08, 11:47 PM
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Tube size will depend on what size tire you have fitted. Obviously, diameter-wise, you're going to want 26".

As far as pedals and shoes go, they're a HIGHLY personal thing. About the only thing I seem to find people in agreement on is that you want more platform than not - go for the one-sided pedals. You'll get a recommendation for every different kind here, so what you really need to do is find you needs and try to find some way to try them out. The big kicker: You're going to take your rites (fall on your side). Get the shoes and pedals and take the rites BEFORE starting out on a journey.

That said, I have SPD-SLs and SPDs. I started with the SPD-SLs on my road bike and have SPDs on my Instigator/Xtracycle. My advice is to go with the SPD-SLs and get a pair of sandals or something else light that you're comfy in for off-bike. To me, they feel MUCH more reassuring - clipping in is more definite than the SPDs AND you get a nice loud *CLACK* to let you know you're in; clipping out is a bit more difficult than SPDs. SPDs are more walkable by a long shot, but they offer a somewhat more difficult clip-in (in my experience) and only a little *click* in comparison with the SPD-SLs.

Shimano offers mountain versions of SPD pedals and road versions of both SPD and SPD-SL pedals.
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Originally Posted by Corcis View Post
As far as pedals and shoes go, they're a HIGHLY personal thing. About the only thing I seem to find people in agreement on is that you want more platform than not - go for the one-sided pedals. You'll get a recommendation for every different kind here, so what you really need to do is find you needs and try to find some way to try them out. The big kicker: You're going to take your rites (fall on your side). Get the shoes and pedals and take the rites BEFORE starting out on a journey.

That said, I have SPD-SLs and SPDs. I started with the SPD-SLs on my road bike and have SPDs on my Instigator/Xtracycle. My advice is to go with the SPD-SLs and get a pair of sandals or something else light that you're comfy in for off-bike. To me, they feel MUCH more reassuring - clipping in is more definite than the SPDs AND you get a nice loud *CLACK* to let you know you're in; clipping out is a bit more difficult than SPDs. SPDs are more walkable by a long shot, but they offer a somewhat more difficult clip-in (in my experience) and only a little *click* in comparison with the SPD-SLs.

Shimano offers mountain versions of SPD pedals and road versions of both SPD and SPD-SL pedals.
I'll have to disagree on the pedals and shoes. On tour you should be spending time getting off the bike to see stuff. How often depends on where you are and what looks interesting. Having to take off you cycling shoes to put on another pair of shoes before you go wandering off is just a pain. A good mountain bike shoe with a recessed cleat is by far better than a road shoe. Road shoes are good if you plan on spending the whole day attached to the bike hammering out the miles but this is a tour, leave the 'de France' at home

matt121400, look at mountain bike shoes and regular SPD pedals. The Shimano M520 pedal is one of the best bargains out there for as little as $30 (do a google search). Don't spend a whole lot on pedals...you don't get much more for $150 than you do for $30. My personal opinion is that 2 sided pedals are much better than single side. Less fiddling to get you foot in the pedal. With a 2-sided pedal, if you get you foot on the pedal, you can moosh it around until you click in.

Spend your money on the shoe. Make sure it's comfortable and fits well. If it's tight when your feet are cool, it will be super tight when you feet are hot. A little too roomy is better than too tight.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
I'll have to disagree on the pedals and shoes. On tour you should be spending time getting off the bike to see stuff. How often depends on where you are and what looks interesting. Having to take off you cycling shoes to put on another pair of shoes before you go wandering off is just a pain. A good mountain bike shoe with a recessed cleat is by far better than a road shoe. Road shoes are good if you plan on spending the whole day attached to the bike hammering out the miles but this is a tour, leave the 'de France' at home

matt121400, look at mountain bike shoes and regular SPD pedals. The Shimano M520 pedal is one of the best bargains out there for as little as $30 (do a google search). Don't spend a whole lot on pedals...you don't get much more for $150 than you do for $30. My personal opinion is that 2 sided pedals are much better than single side. Less fiddling to get you foot in the pedal. With a 2-sided pedal, if you get you foot on the pedal, you can moosh it around until you click in.

Spend your money on the shoe. Make sure it's comfortable and fits well. If it's tight when your feet are cool, it will be super tight when you feet are hot. A little too roomy is better than too tight.
I agree with all of that. It is very good advice.

I do advise carrying some other lightweight off bike footwear, but you really want to be able to walk a mile in the shoes that you ride in when on tour. Personally I like Sidi Bullet 2 MTB shoes for on bike with a pair of Crocs for when I need a break from my riding shoes.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
I'll have to disagree on the pedals and shoes. On tour you should be spending time getting off the bike to see stuff. How often depends on where you are and what looks interesting. Having to take off you cycling shoes to put on another pair of shoes before you go wandering off is just a pain. A good mountain bike shoe with a recessed cleat is by far better than a road shoe. Road shoes are good if you plan on spending the whole day attached to the bike hammering out the miles but this is a tour, leave the 'de France' at home
I don't disagree on any of your points - they're all valid and right. I'd like to know how the feel of the SPDs and SPD-SLs differ with similar shoes. My SPD shoes are much more akin to normal shoes than my SPD-SL shoes; the uppers on the latter are much tighter and less forgiving than the former.
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One of the assorted Crank Brothers pedals (for example the Candy) might work for you too.

You don't need high zoot shoes, you can get good touring shoes for well under $100...

I ride with Lake MX101 shoe. It is a mountain shoe with a less aggressive tread than most, so they're a little lighter. The Lake web site lists them as "Adventure shoes"

If I were you, until you know which shoe/size works for you, buy them locally so you can try them on.

But be sure the sales person knows you don't want to walk like a duck when you are walking around, or some will push you toward road shoes.
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I think crank brothers pedals are a better bet than spd. The cleat of crank bros pedals is shallower than the shimano cleat, so it doesn't scrape the ground as much when you walk.I've had 5 or so different shoes with eggeater cleats, and none of them cause the cleat to scrape the ground unless it is really uneven. You can always find cranks brothers candies for $50. Also I think they are nicer to clip in and out off than the shimano stuff. There is no definitive "click" with crank bros when you clip in though, and that bothers some people.
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Originally Posted by staehpj1 View Post
I agree with all of that. It is very good advice.

I do advise carrying some other lightweight off bike footwear, but you really want to be able to walk a mile in the shoes that you ride in when on tour. Personally I like Sidi Bullet 2 MTB shoes for on bike with a pair of Crocs for when I need a break from my riding shoes.
I carry sandals on all of my bike tours for wandering around camp. But I really, really detest sandals. I may look at the Crocs.

My mountain bike shoes are good for much more than a mile. I did 6 miles while on escort duty with the Colfax marathon and a lot more then that when I got lost on the Hermosa Creek Trail with my daughter.
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I carry sandals on all of my bike tours for wandering around camp. But I really, really detest sandals. I may look at the Crocs.

My mountain bike shoes are good for much more than a mile. I did 6 miles while on escort duty with the Colfax marathon and a lot more then that when I got lost on the Hermosa Creek Trail with my daughter.
Just to clarify... I can walk good distances in my Sidis too. I intended the 1 mile comment to be a very minimum standard.

On the Crocs... People seem to either love them or hate them. I like the fact that I can just step into and out of them. I also like the light weight.
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If possible, buy your shoes at the LBS. You can see, feel and try 'em on for comfort and fit. Mail ordering shoes is iffy to my way of thinking, as all shoes—despite their stated size are different. Just a thought.
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Don't buy shoes mail order. You gotta try them on. Order SPD compatible pedals from Nashbar if you want, but not the shoes.

Edit: Check out Shimano sandals. They use SPD (mountain bike style) cleats and pedals.
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I like spds on all my bikes. I have never tried but I like the look of the spds with a dx pedal cage round them so you can just wear normal shoes when you want and the spd bit just gets pulled down (still double sided). Sorry I don't know what they are called. Google dx and spd.

On the subject of Crocs. Not my site, but quite funny.

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FYI ,I bought two pairs of Shimano M324 pedals from this ebay seller. $32 each ($34 now) pretty good deal although they did not come with cleats, shipping was fast.

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Shimano-PD-M...QQcmdZViewItem
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OK found them dx 647 and similar.

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I think crank brothers pedals are a better bet than spd. The cleat of crank bros pedals is shallower than the shimano cleat, so it doesn't scrape the ground as much when you walk.I've had 5 or so different shoes with eggeater cleats, and none of them cause the cleat to scrape the ground unless it is really uneven. You can always find cranks brothers candies for $50. Also I think they are nicer to clip in and out off than the shimano stuff. There is no definitive "click" with crank bros when you clip in though, and that bothers some people.
Wish I didn't have to replace 4 sets of pedals I've like the idea of the Crank Bro pedals since they came out but once you have multiple pedals replacing them all is kind of expensive.
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Wish I didn't have to replace 4 sets of pedals I've like the idea of the Crank Bro pedals since they came out but once you have multiple pedals replace them all is kind of expensive.
Ha, yeah. I'm sort of in the same boat with 5 pairs of shoes and 3 sets up pedals set up for crank bros. Hopefully I don't find out I like something better, or I'm screwed
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