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Old 12-08-08, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by meyers66
Hi, Re: BG bikes made in Taiwan 12/8/08
I'm an American expat living in Taiwan. Home town is SF, CA.
Is there any way I can get a deal on a BG Taiwan bike and pick it up in Taiwan? I'm in Ping Chen City Taoyuan Hsien.
With all due respect to yourself and Mr. Gordon, and it's probably not my place to say this, why don't you contact him directly (he has a website and a PM here) rather than ask for this special favor in a public forum?
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I've been waiting for these! I just stopped by his shop (I work down the road), and he has one pre-production model built up, it looks gorgeous. He said the first batch will come in, in early July (I think). Frame, fork, racks, stem and headset for $975. To me it's almost the perfect all-rounder, one of those "if I had to have just one bike" bikes. I'll let you know what I think once I've ridden one.
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I'm currently looking into bike builders in Canada. Arvon Stacey has a great rep, but I can't find any info on his bikes. Do you have any contact info for him?

It would help out a lot.

Thanks
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Big News - Bruce Gordon has jumped into the 21st century.
I have a BLOG!!
https://wcamo.blogspot.com/

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Originally Posted by bgcycles
Big News - Bruce Gordon has jumped into the 21st century.
I have a BLOG!!
https://wcamo.blogspot.com/

Regards,
Bruce Gordon
www.bgcycles.com
Any update on the "complete" version of the Taiwanese BLT?

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Someday I would like to get a Bruce Gordon frameset. Now that I can afford things such as this the only question is when.
I need to wear out some bikes first! But I will give a few bikes to my boys when they are old enough and then I will have some room. They are nearly ready for their 1st tour.
Always wanted a Bruce Gordon.
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Originally Posted by ricohman
Someday I would like to get a Bruce Gordon frameset. Now that I can afford things such as this the only question is when.
I need to wear out some bikes first! But I will give a few bikes to my boys when they are old enough and then I will have some room. They are nearly ready for their 1st tour.
Always wanted a Bruce Gordon.
Your real problem is that your Sherpa should have been a crappy choice!

(The Bruce Gordans are very nice. It's just after trashing a bike, I kind of prefer something not quite so expensive to replace!)

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Well, it's been awhile since I looked at BG's web site. The Tiawanese-made complete BLT now looks like a great deal! For about $1700 USD you get SLX/XT specs, and handbuilt racks. In short, the complete bike is ready made for touring and no modifications are necessary.

I've been looking at building up a cyclocross frame (specifically the Cross Check and Double Cross) into an all-arounder (including some loaded touring). While XC bikes work for touring, they're far from perfect: the geometry is a bit twitchy, short chainstays, etc.

The BLT also looks like it would do well as an all-arounder. The geometry seems a bit more spritely than other dedicated touring frames like Surly LHT, Soma Saga, etc.: Those bikes have an extremely low BB, and a very long wheel-base. The BLT geometry seems like a nice, happy medium between touring and XC geometry - stable enough for loaded touring, but nimble enough for all-around riding.

I'm really glad Bruce is still around...
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Originally Posted by AlanK
Those bikes have an extremely low BB, and a very long wheel-base. The BLT geometry seems like a nice, happy medium between touring and XC geometry - stable enough for loaded touring, but nimble enough for all-around riding.

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I'd rather have the bike dialed in, geometry wise, for loaded touring, then when I need it to just be a road bike, with skinny tires, no racks/fenders, etc... I'll deal with the longer wheel base and slower steering. My Miyata City Liner is exactly that. It's not a 16 lbs carbon wonder, never will be. It's too heavy, even lightened up. I notice the weight before I notice the long wheel base and relaxed geometry. But then again, I have a Soma Smoothie for the in-between, as well as the carbon wonder bike.
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Tubus racks are OK, but Bruce Gordon's are better I've had the BG ones through 2 bike builds , 25 years..
they served flawlessly through several really nice tours around 'Yurp.
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Right now the BLT sizes available are limited.
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I think the Batch TW order has sold through some sizes..

there's always the 'Rock and Road' frames made in Petaluma..


having those racks fit perfectly is a Plus ..

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Everything what'shisname said should have been instantly dismissed on first sight of that ridiculous suspension stem. This thread has been a great read.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Tubus racks are OK, but Bruce Gordon's are better I've had the BG ones through 2 bike builds , 25 years..
My BG racks and R 'n R frame are now 19 years old and still going strong. I had them re powder coated just last year. The original blue finish held up that long. Thanks Bruce! My good camera broke, here's a cheap cell phone snapshot.....

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I think we all should try to support people like Bruce Gordon. Remember, bike touring is a pretty small niche sport. It's certainly probably the smallest segment of the overall bike market, I would guess. Anybody that is making a good touring bike for a number of years is someone that I truly hope prospers and stays in business. I love biking and bike touring, and it is people like Bruce Gordon who keep the business vital and save us all from having to choose between Trek 520's and Long Haul Truckers. Nothing against either of those brands of two giant companies, but people like Bruce (and their small businesses) are who give us choices. Go Bruce! Go all small bike companies!
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The real problem Bruce has is his bikes and racks never become obsolete and they last forever. He needs to figure out the "razor and blades" market for his products.
Have an R&R going on 13 years. Bruce is kind of like a drill instructor, you don't like how and what he tells you until that moment you pop over to 13% downhill fully loaded. You will then appreciate Bruce.
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Bruce is the way to go. I have spent several hours on the phone with him telling him just what I wanted and having him (politely) tell me why several of the things I wanted were dumb. I finally realized that actually, he was right. He has his own standard about what a bike should be and he will not compromise on that if he puts his name on it. Period. You will get a great bike when he is done with it; maybe not what you had in mind at first, but the product of several discussions an getting an education from a master. Any bike that comes out of his shop is going to be an outstanding machine and assured of quality and adherence to some well established BG standards. And wow, comparing a Bruce Gordon to a Trek 520... Like comparing a dog to an orange or something... Just nothing in common.
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Originally Posted by IntoThickAir
Mr. Gordon invites comments from those who've toured on one of his bikes, so here goes:

I've a Rock n' Road. It's pretty wonderful 15 years after I bought it (used, at a swap meet), and has rolled across six continents. But when the down tube developed a crack after 5 years, I called Mr. Gordon and asked if there were any way he would fix it - for free. I was working for the Discovery Channel at the time, delivering dispatches from the road, and the bike was mentioned prominently in the 'gear' section of my online journal. Did Mr. Gordon see this as an opportunity to advance his Public Relations? No. He seemed annoyed that I implied that he should repair the frame at no cost to me. As for the publicity he might have gained, I got the impression that he was content with keeping his one-man operation a one-man operation.

Which is understandable. As for his phone manners, some people I love aren't much better.

So there you go: a nice bike, from a guy who doesn't like to chat. I had Tucson's Andy Gilmour put in a new down tube, and the Rock n Road is still my daily ride.
I suspect you will find few if any bikes that have warranties that extend beyond the original owner...
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BTW,I have not seen Trek chime in here several times like Bruce has...
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I was introduced to bicycles made by Bruce Gordon in 1974 by Bill McCready later of Santana Tandem fame. A very tall friend was looking for a new bike to fit his 6 foot 7 inch long legged body. I saw a 69cm frame hanging in the rafters of McCready's bike shop. It had been custom built by Bruce Gordon. It was elegant and beautiful. My friend bought it to my regret as the frame transferred all of the power from his 250 pound body into forward motion. I had a hard time keeping up with his after his BG upgrade. He still rides the bike today.

I came late to the BG party in 1985 buying his racks for my touring bike. I liked how they became an extension of the bike. When the BG RNR bikes were introduced I ordered a titanium one and transferred my BG racks to it. Twenty-four years later I am still happily touring on and off pavement on the RNR. I have recommended BG bikes to many folks who have later purchased one. I am regularly asked by other riders what frame/bike I am riding. Bruce Gordon remains an excellent source of durable, good performing bikes,racks and panniers.
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Originally Posted by IntoThickAir
Mr. Gordon invites comments from those who've toured on one of his bikes, so here goes:

I've a Rock n' Road. It's pretty wonderful 15 years after I bought it (used, at a swap meet), and has rolled across six continents. But when the down tube developed a crack after 5 years, I called Mr. Gordon and asked if there were any way he would fix it - for free. I was working for the Discovery Channel at the time, delivering dispatches from the road, and the bike was mentioned prominently in the 'gear' section of my online journal. Did Mr. Gordon see this as an opportunity to advance his Public Relations? No. He seemed annoyed that I implied that he should repair the frame at no cost to me. As for the publicity he might have gained, I got the impression that he was content with keeping his one-man operation a one-man operation.

Which is understandable. As for his phone manners, some people I love aren't much better.

So there you go: a nice bike, from a guy who doesn't like to chat. I had Tucson's Andy Gilmour put in a new down tube, and the Rock n Road is still my daily ride.
I suspect you will find few if any bikes that have warranties that extend beyond the original owner...
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Went to swap at his shop and you could tell he was well regarded by his frame building peers..Bruces ride
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Not to break up the Bruce Gordon love fest, but I have an 89 Trek 520. It is being readied for touring season number 24. It doesn't even need a new powdercoat!

I don't know whether it's the dog or the orange in the comparo above, but it has been a pretty good touring bike.

That said I agree two thumbs up, with the poster who gives props ( old thread old term) to small manufacturers like Bruce. Obviously guys like him add to our sport by expanding our options.

Are those options higher quality than the LHTs or 520s? 24 years You be the judge!

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1 st narrow the definition of Quality .. what Quality is most important?
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
1 st narrow the definition of Quality .. what Quality is most important?
In this example - Build quality - thought that was obvious.

Again, not to knock Bruce Gordon's product but we've got people going on here about their BG bikes lasting 15 years, while at the same time others are knocking the off the shelf bikes as not even on the same page in comparison. I beg to differ. There is nothing extraordinary about my 89 520. it's been well ridden, and well cared for, and no one is more amazed than i at its longevity. But it has proven what it is, a high quality bike. A bike that will put another 1500 to 2000 miles under its tires this season.
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