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tony colegrave 11-08-08 03:42 PM

brooks.
 
[QUOTE=George;7810203]

Originally Posted by tony colegrave (Post 7810120)

I knew someone like you would come along.

Happy to help! One of the purposes of these forums, I suppose, is to enable those with some experience to educate the ignorant?
A couple of other observations, concerning the fitting of a replacement bolt, which might be helpful; unless Bill has sent one of the hex-headed tension bolts designed for Swift or B.17 Champ. Special Titanium saddles (in which case it'll just be necessary to enlarge the aperture in the nosepiece, to accomodate the larger head of those bolts), the new bolt will not be '7mm. shorter' than the one which broke (assuming that that bolt was the one pictured in the first posting, of course) - Brooks only make these other bolts in two lengths, and the one illustrated is the shorter of the two. I'm sure that there must already be information in the BF archives, to assist the fitting of replacement tension bolts, but, for the benefit of the few who don't know already, I'd advise that the 'end of the bolt' is certainly not narrower than the threaded portion.

Rowan 11-08-08 06:45 PM

I don't think you've been particularly helpful at all. The saddle does not appear to be under slack tension in either photograph, and the bolt in the original picture is the broken one.

Why don't you be generous and tell everyone (the few thousand who don't know already) how to fit the bolt, rather than having to trawl through BF archives about it?

tony colegrave 11-09-08 05:37 PM

Brooks.
 
Well, there's no helping some folk, I guess. My initial contribution was intended to address the likely cause of the 'problem', so that it might be avoided in the future, rather than offering advice on resolution. This latter is hardly likely to present a 'few thousand' with much difficulty, I'd have thought, but, for those few who do experience such difficulty, I'd refer to http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...953@highlight= which I hope might be of some practical help. To those who might wonder what a 'jic' is, I'd advise that this is the Olde Englishe spelling of 'jig'.

Aushiker 11-10-08 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by tony colegrave (Post 7819564)
Well, there's no helping some folk, I guess. My initial contribution was intended to address the likely cause of the 'problem', so that it might be avoided in the future, rather than offering advice on resolution.

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Originally Posted by George (Post 7796694)
........... I have about 5000 miles on the saddle and never touched the bolt.

I'd guess that this is the reason for your 'problem'. Looking at the picture that you've posted, it seems pretty clear that the tension was extremely slack and it doesn't surprise me at all that the bolt broke.

I think a revisiting of your own words is warranted here. It does not sound like you where suggesting a "likely cause of the problem" to me at all. Rather it seems you where rather emphatic (i.e., "it seems pretty clear ...") and all this based on a picture of a seat upside down which according to you shows the tension was extremely slack and according to you others needed to use their imagination to get to this conclusion .... Suggesting imagination is required seems at odds again with your rather emphatic statements ....

If you intended to be helpful as you put it, maybe a different choice of wording was warranted. Something to consider ...

Andrew

rhm 11-10-08 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by George (Post 7801963)
Which saddle did you end up with?

Mine --the one that softened up too much during about 2000 miles of nearly daily riding-- was a honey colored B-17.

At present my daily rider has very firm, and very narrow, padded saddle; but I don't like it much. I will probably get another B-17 for it, and this time I won't put any proofide on it at all.


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