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Old 02-06-09, 11:36 PM
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How did this bike manage to have racks on it?

Bike: http://picasaweb.google.com/pgareau/...62023197227778

Look at it, the bike doesn't seem to have any holes on the frame for racks. The front fork is a normal looking suspension fork. How exactly do racks get mounted onto bikes? I thought the frames and forks usually need some sort of holes for them to attach to. No?

I'm thinking of biding on this bike here: http://hk.f1.page.auctions.yahoo.com...ion/1117746517
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Old 02-07-09, 12:02 AM
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I think I've found the answer here: http://www.oldmanmountain.com/Pages/...RearRacks.html

Looks like some racks mounts onto the bike using the axle and break bosses instead rack eyelets.

This is my current mountain bike: http://picasaweb.google.com/terrycfy...31125764024002

Now that I've found racks that don't require rack eyelets, how do you think my bike will hold up?
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Old 02-07-09, 12:07 AM
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Is that picture taken in a public washroom?
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Old 02-07-09, 12:16 AM
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hahaa...nope...that's the basement of the place that I'm current renting. Here, by the beach, the humidity is so high all year round that tiles are much more long lasting against the weather.
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i have an old steel rack which uses the axle instead of eyelets. it makes changing or removing your front wheel horrendous and maddening and i dont recommend it for anyone.
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So I'm better off with an MTB (the one from the auction...maybe?) with eyelets? I suppose at least I'll be able to find a rear rack that will fit on it easily.
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So I'm better off with an MTB (the one from the auction...maybe?) with eyelets? I suppose at least I'll be able to find a rear rack that will fit on it easily.
You can use P clamps, I have seen people using those with excellent results. I don't know if I would trust them with a full heavy tour load.

Tubus makes a whole line of accessories for mount racks on bikes without eyelets.

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P clamps may work O.K. on a steel or alum. frame, but I difinitely wouldn't use them on a carbon fiber frame which it appears is what the OP has.
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P clamps may work O.K. on a steel or alum. frame, but I difinitely wouldn't use them on a carbon fiber frame which it appears is what the OP has.
Nope...frame is "fluid formed Alloy" which I assume NOT to be Carbon Fibre. Also did you check the link to Tubus? They have many different types of adapters that will allow rack mounting utilizing the drop outs, QR's and the like.

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I think I've found the answer here: http://www.oldmanmountain.com/Pages/...RearRacks.html

Looks like some racks mounts onto the bike using the axle and break bosses instead rack eyelets.

+1 - I've been abusing my oldest set of OMM racks for over 8 years and have several OMM racks on my bikes. They are light, strong and mount easily to just about any bike. Mine have not given me the slightest bit of trouble....

It's also nice to buy a product made in the US by a couple guys you can call up and chat with....
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Nice mountain bike you have there! Does your fork have a lock-out? It's nice to be able to do that.

So.... It's carbon. I think you should have a conversation with someone at Giant about the stresses bags will put on it. If they say it's good, then it looks great.

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I've done very well with mine on my cross bike the past few seasons..... with the axel mount and canti brale mounts.
 
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The frame of my current MTB is a CF frame, and I don't mind putting it to the test as I haven't been able to find any solid proof that CF frame should or shouldn't be used for touring with race. So, I'll try that out myself...just need to find a way to attach the rack.

Trying to keep my tour's initial cost low, the P clamps with typical racks seems to be a cheaper overall option compare to the OMM racks...but doesn't look as solid.

However, the "cheap and no worry" option for me would be to get the bike from the auction and just add on any rack to it, down side being I'll have to dish out an additional A$600 and leave my current bike behind to gather dust.

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Nope...frame is "fluid formed Alloy" which I assume NOT to be Carbon Fibre.
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Carbon Fibre: http://picasaweb.google.com/terrycfyau/Bike#5299931125764024002

Fluid Formed Alloy: http://hk.f1.page.auctions.yahoo.com/hk/auction/1117746517
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Trying to keep my tour's initial cost low, the P clamps with typical racks seems to be a cheaper overall option compare to the OMM racks...but doesn't look as solid.

However, the "cheap and no worry" option for me would be to get the bike from the auction and just add on any rack to it, down side being I'll have to disk out an additional A$600 and leave my current bike behind to gather dust.

hum...
Using P-clips on a carbon frame won't be cheap when you are shopping for a replacement for you broken frame... Get the OMM racks or get a cheap steel/AL bike with some rack mounts. You can also haul a trailer with your carbon bike.
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Hi vik, if I'm going with the cheap AL bike option, do you think the Giant Iguana Disc from the auction is any good?
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My rack mounts to the bike with P-clamps. I agree, these would be questionable for heavy loads. Not so much that they'd just let go, but they'll bend and twist around. They may remove paint from your bike, too. Not a problem for a beater, but think twice before you go clamping them on some $5,000 frame. They're not necessarily as rigid as the eyelets.

The old-style Wald baskets just mount to the axle nuts, I believe.
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Alright, I've finally decided to get a separate bike for the tour and have just purchased a Fuji Newest 2.0:
http://picasaweb.google.com/terrycfy...55643831070946

Can't believe that I just bought a bike only because it has rack eyelets...
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