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'84 Miyata 1000

Old 02-13-09, 04:00 PM
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'84 Miyata 1000

I've been searching for a touring bike in my size and price range for months and I have stumbled upon a Miyata 1000. It's brand new with a few modifications, converted to 18 speed. It's been stored since it was bought brand new in 84.

My question is, what would be a good price for this bike? Also, what complications could I forsee in a 2000 mile loaded tour if any as opposed to a newer bike?
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Old 02-13-09, 04:37 PM
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You might want to post this in the classic&vintage forum's value subforum. But I'd hazard that it's probably worth anywhere from 200 to 600 bucks, depending on the local market for such things. Not much help, I know.

If it's as new as you think, basically unused, then it should be able to take you tens of thousands of miles before major surgery. Newer bikes will have slightly less whippy frames, handle a tiny bit better with load, but it's a mighty fine bike for loaded touring. All the grease is probably dried out, so you should repack and adjust the headset, bottom bracket and hubs, as well as replace all the cables and brake pads before starting your tour. Also replace the chain if it's at all rusty and grease the pedal spindles, true the wheels, replace the tires, add a little lube to anything that pivots or slides (except the shifters!). Also, do a 1 or 2-day shakedown tour- anything that is weak will probably show up on the first day of loaded riding.

Compared to a newer bike, the main thing is that the components will be old. But some of the older stuff was quite dependable when properly lubed and adjusted. Some people prefer the older downtube shifters on their new bikes since they don't have all the fiddly springs and ratchets in them to break halfway into a trip across the country. I have a 1984 Univega Gran Turismo (made by Miyata) touring bike that has taken me many thousands of miles trouble-free.

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Old 02-13-09, 07:41 PM
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In mint condition they go for more like $800 to $1000. There's been a real premium on the premier vintage touring bikes and that bike is at the top of the list.

The 1984 originally had a 5 tooth cog in the rear and a triple FD. If it has been converted to 18 speeds, then the frame was probably cold set to increase the rear spacing from 120 to 126 mm. That's good news as there are a lot more 6 speed freewheels available than 5 speed. It would have originally had 50-40-28 chainrings. That may be adequate if you get a 34 tooth cog on the rear.

I'd agree with the above poster in terms of how you should get it ready. There have been a lot of improvements in the past 25 years in terms of making bikes go faster for racing, but in terms of comfort and reliability, the differences are much less so. I think that's one of the reasons the vintage touring bikes from the mid-80s have such a premium.

I'd probably put some Rivendell Silver bar end shifters on it (although that wouldn't be at all necessary), but other than a tune up, and perhaps a wide range freewheel, I'm not sure it will need much else to be a fine touring machine.
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I ended up buying the bike. It looks brand new, no rust. The chain was just replaced recently, as well as the wheels. I also have all of the original parts in addition to the newer parts. Thanks for the advise guys, much appreciated.
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Old 02-15-09, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by zeptune View Post
I ended up buying the bike. It looks brand new, no rust. The chain was just replaced recently, as well as the wheels. I also have all of the original parts in addition to the newer parts. Thanks for the advise guys, much appreciated.
How much did you end up paying? Post pics!

AND CONGRATS!
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how much did you end up paying? Post pics!

And congrats!

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Congratulations. Please post pictures in the Classic and Vintage forum as well.
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Old 02-15-09, 06:52 PM
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I have a 1985 Miyata 1000. If the 1984 model is anything like the 1985, you have one fine bicycle. They don't get much better. Although I have a newer, custom-made touring bike, which I adore, I still ride -- and more important -- look forward to riding -- my old Miyata. (Although I have "retired" the Miyata from multi-day trips.)
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Old 02-16-09, 09:38 PM
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Congrats on your "new" bike and a nice find it is! I have a 610 and love it. Here's a link to the some Miyata catalogs:

http://www.miyatacatalogs.com/2007/1...alog-1984.html

Enjoy it.
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Congrats on the Miyata! I just bought a 1981 Miyata 1000 that was taken very good care of. I've spent the last few weeks rebuilding her from top to bottom. Personally, I wouldn't take 2 new touring bikes for this one in an even trade. A few pictures .......

I even got a brand spanking NEW set of Madden panniers for it, Buzzards and Baby Buzzards. I'm much more fond of this bike than a person should ever be.

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Old 02-18-09, 07:17 AM
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Hi I bought a Miyata 1000 a few years back for 200. It was a steal. It had the original tires(since replaced). Mine is a six speed rear cassette. Great bike would not hesitate taking it across country. The wheels are bombproof. I have commuted on it for 6 years(almost everyday) and tour on it as well. It came with the original frame pump and I still use it. I really love this bike. I wouldn't hesitate spending $600-800 on another.
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