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Old 03-03-09, 08:13 PM
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Coyotes, food, joshua trees

I have a question concerning keeping food away from coyotes. I'm planning on going on a trip through Joshua tree in about a week. Typically, I would hang my food on a tree, but the only trees out there are Joshua Trees that you're not suppose to touch (federal fine). So what should we do? I don't want to carry a bear box or anything like that.

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I have long used a Ursack staked to the ground when in treeless areas when small or larger scavengers are expected.
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Coyotes are pretty skittish, I wouldn't worry about them. They're not necessarily afraid of people, but they also don't want anything to do with people. Just keep your food inside a canvas/nylon bag in the tent's vestibule and you'll be fine.
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I wouldn't worry about it there. There aren't any animal warnings in the campground. You'll probably have more trouble with the kangaroo rats.

good idea, by the way - amazing scenery.

there is no water in the park, including the campsites, you have to bring it all. you could probably bum some off the climbers, or get someone to carry some up for you. if you are entering from the town of Joshua Tree that should be no problem, ask people at Nomad or Coyote Corner or Crossroads Cafe. The water at the back of Coyote Corner is good and free, there's showers there too for a few $.

ALso, not sure what the regulations are there about camping outside the campground - you might need a backcountry permit, and to be a certain distance from the road.
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I agree with the others - donīt worry about the coyotes. Just be sure your food isn't just sitting out on the table, but you don't need to worry about hanging it.

We were taken by surprise by the lack of water - not that it mattered because we couldn't have carried more even if we did know. We ended up finding a group of college kids who had about 35 gallons of water too much and they happily unloaded a couple of them to us.
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I've ridden across JTNP over two days and did not take any extra measures stashing food away at the campground.
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I agree with the above. Consider yourself lucky if you even see one of the tricksters. They keep away from humans.... dont bring your female dog though, or you might end up with some really skittish puppies one day.
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A teammate of mine at 29 Palms had his combat boot stolen by coyote(s) from right next to him as he slept. It was a long walk out for him.
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