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Old 03-20-09, 02:47 AM
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Best touring tires for 27" ?

Does anyone make decent size larger 27" tires? I know they make the equivelent of 35c (1 3/8") for 27" wheels, but I want something a little more road oriented. Anyone know of anything? Or maybe an extra large 32? I want something with really good flat protection and hopefully decent rolling resistance.
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I like the Continental Ultra Gatorskins in 27X1-1/4.
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Those seem rather "thin" thought width wise, and while I am sure they are very puncture proof, they are expensive and dont look too "comfortable." I do only weigh in at around 145 lbs though, and ill be doing as light of touring as I can (while stilling carrying a sleeping bag / tent / hammock or some combo)
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Originally Posted by kawasakiguy37
Those seem rather "thin" thought width wise, and while I am sure they are very puncture proof, they are expensive and dont look too "comfortable." I do only weigh in at around 145 lbs though, and ill be doing as light of touring as I can (while stilling carrying a sleeping bag / tent / hammock or some combo)
I think they are as wide as a lot of tires labeled 700x32 tires. I always consider 32mm pretty standard for road touring. On the TA my weight ranged from 195-205 and I was not loaded extremely light. I thought 32mm were about ideal and could have lived with 28mms. If I weighed 145, I would be running something in the 25-28 range. Different strokes though.
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Yea, I run wide 32's on my cross bike offseason, I just like the feel of a larger tire and not having to worry about breaking or bending rims when going off curbs. I have found some 28's though very comfortable, and they are definitely waaay faster. Any smaller than that, however, and I just do not like having less rubber on the pavement.
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At your weight I would think that Gatorskins 1-1/4 as Pete recommended would be plenty. I had some on my commuter and they were great. Another option is is Pasela TourGuard's. I am using some Pasela TG's now on my commuter and would not hesitate to tour on them.
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I'm now riding a pair of Panaracer Pasela "Tour Guard" 27 x 1 1/4" and I love them. They feel lightweight and fast, and they seem to have a good grip on pavement. The sidewalls are thin, so if you get these be sure to keep them fully inflated. Not sure if they would be any good on deep gravel, but on packed stone-dust trails they are fine.

The Pasela comes in two versions. I recommend spending the extra $5 for the "Tour Guard" Kevlar-belted ones for flat protection.
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I'm 165 and love the Conti Ultra Gatorskins. Use the bike for unloaded long distance and touring...
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I have the 27 X 1 1/4 gatorskins on one of my bikes. They actually measure about 28 mm wide, not 32. In contrast, I think Panaracers measure close to the stated width. At your weight 28 mm should be fine. The gatorskins are a decent compromise between A) flat resistance, B) comfort and C) speed, with an obvious tilt more towards the flat resistance.
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Gatorskins are also a bit expensive though.... how do the zaffiros compare?

edit: I forgot to say also that Im currently running 27 1 1/4" bontragers selects, which I never even find online when searching for good 27" tires. Are these tires significantly worse? Bontrager also makes the select K, which has kevlar protection supposedly. The actual tire measures 29mm in width.

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whatever you do, dont get the specialized armadillo. they are crap.

Edit: schwalbe marathons come in 27 inch. I have beeen happy with their tires in other sizes...

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Originally Posted by kawasakiguy37
Gatorskins are also a bit expensive though.... how do the zaffiros compare?

edit: I forgot to say also that Im currently running 27 1 1/4" bontragers selects, which I never even find online when searching for good 27" tires. Are these tires significantly worse? Bontrager also makes the select K, which has kevlar protection supposedly. The actual tire measures 29mm in width.
I don't think I understand your problem.

What is wrong with the tires you have now? Are you having lots of flats? Are they uncomfortable?

I had some Bontrager's on a Trek 520 that were fantastic - 2,500 miles, zero flats. Why not just buy one spare (folding) tire and take off on tour. If you run into problems you can swap out tires on the road.
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Originally Posted by BengeBoy
I had some Bontrager's on a Trek 520 that were fantastic - 2,500 miles, zero flats. Why not just buy one spare (folding) tire and take off on tour. If you run into problems you can swap out tires on the road.
If your tires are newish I agree. We did the TA starting with Kenda Euro Treks on our three bikes. I don't think they were even belted. 3 of the 6 tires made the whole 4200+ mile trip and the lightest rider used them for a long time after. We didn't even bother with a spare tire, but carried several tubes.

We had some flats, but fixing a flat every once in a while is not a huge deal.
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I just put a set of Vredestein Perfect Moiree's on my Miyata. They look nice, are very quiet and seem to roll easily. I bought the 27 x 1-1/4" and they measure right at 32mm. We'll see how they hold up.

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Back in the day, (about 25 years ago), Specialized used to market the Expedition, which was 27 x 1 3/8". That was my favorite touring tire, but alas, they stopped making them years ago. I've looked and looked and have yet to find a similar sized tire on the market now. I'd love to know if anyone knows of a 27 1 3/8" tire on the market now.
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I just want bigger tires, and they have about 3k on them right now. 29mm is a bit small for me, Im used to cross tires
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[QUOTE=positron;8565383]whatever you do, dont get the specialized armadillo. they are crap.QUOTE]

wondering what you find crappy about them. I like them so much that I am planning on getting two sets to replace Pasela TG's and some Schwalbes. Not that I don't like those tires, but I have never had a flat on the 28mm Armadillos. All I can think is that they are not the fastest tires.

This shows that no one person can tell you what is a "good" tire. When I'm getting ready to drop 200 bucks(50 a peice) for tires that someone else dislikes because of my good experiences with them...
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You want fast rolling, good puncture resistance, comfortable but $40 is too much. Wire bead Pasela tourguard would be a good choice. I've got the pricier kevlar folding one and it's great.

If you want more sidewall durability AND fast rolling it's going to cost money.
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Ok, fast rolling is the least concern then as ill just get in better shape if they are slow. Ill look into the tourguard, Im thinking of just picking up some tires as replacements and then riding mine until they are totally worn.
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[QUOTE=positron;8565383 whatever you do, dont get the specialized armadillo. they are crap. QUOTE]

On my 27 x 1-1/4 old steelie I run a Gatorskin on the front and an Armadillo on the back. Took a rock flat in the rear with my first Gatorskin set. Replaced the rear with an Armadillo, and have had 0 flats with the Gatorskin/Armadillo combo in over 4000 miles (on the same set).

Luckily I'm not as discerning as the Armadillo haters (), so they seem fine to me. After 5 flats and a final blowout in 1800 miles on the rear tire that came with my new Roubaix this year, I immediately went to the Gatorskin/Armadillo combo on that bike, too.

As noted previously, both the 1-1/4 (32mm) Gatorskin and Armadillo measure an actual 28 mm installed. The ride isn't phat-tire, beach cruiser plush, but noticeably softer than 23s and 25s. And when it was in the teens and 20s during those winter rides, it was all about flat protection!
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Its too bad the armadillo or gatorskin arent actual 32mm width, or Id probably just pony up the cash and buy one of those
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Originally Posted by delver
wondering what you find crappy about them [[specialized armadillo]].
Th ride quality is awful, they are heavy, the rubber is too hard for good traction in the wet. They are pretty tough, ill give you that...

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I'm getting ready to drop 200 bucks(50 a peice) for tires that someone else dislikes because of my good experiences with them...
you might want to shop around, I know I got mine for about 30, and that was at the 'pricey' LBS. I would still reccommend the schwalbe marathons, but youre right, it is a subjective thing to some degree. I guess my 27 incher bike is my 'fast' bike (for centuries and 200k rides etc), so I noticed the piggish tires.

I also had them (front wheel) slide out without warning on wet asphalt on a fast downhill curve. Broke a hanging rib and sprained my wrist on that one . I got even by sending them to north africa on a friends' bike.
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I wonder how much rider weight has to do with rateing a tire. with a loaded bike, 45 lb, and a 220 lb rider that hard rubber tends to work out pretty well. At least it has worn the Schwalbs down pretty good in just 800 miles.

Kind of like the idea of spending less, but the only nearby shops that stock 27"s are about fifty miles from me and don't haggle. The only time I tried mail order for tires they came folded up and blew out one by one at the bead within a week till only two were left(Vittoria rubinos, which I quite like). So options are limited.

One good story about Aramdillos. I did a four hundred mile ride through arkansas when I first got them. My pump gauge said 90 psi when I left the house. they looked ok, but the ride was really slow and painfull, especialy on the three mile 10 % grades. However, riding through dry countys in arkansas means lots of broken glass from tossed liquer bottles. SOme sections I rode through several miles of shards. Once I pulled a staple out of the tire, but it had not penetrated and no cuts from the glass, so i was willing to deal with such slow tires, though I was not happy.
At my friends house whom I was visiting I checked my pressure... 50 lbs. My guage at home was messed up and the hardness of the tire made the feel check unreliable compared to the ole passelas.
once aired up they seemed to roll like the wind.
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