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Old 04-02-09, 06:44 PM
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I'd estimate a stock LHT with racks and fenders to tip the scales at 30+ lbs. And when you have a bike that can easily take a heavy load, you're likely to bring along a few extra things and pretty soon you're rather weighted down. And then you'll want fatter (slower) tires, etc., etc. . .

--nope- - -27 maybe. . .mines not stock but it's not over 30 pounds

I lighter bike forces you to make the tough packing choices to keep your load light. And then you can run 25c or 28c tires which are much faster than 35c.

--I run 700x28's on my LHT fully loaded (for domestic US touring and commuting ) and it runs fine. . .maybe the definitions of "fully loaded" and "packing lightly" are very very subjective. But mine handles a self-contained load with weather gear, camping gear, etc quite fine on 700x28's- - -although I admit, the wheels are DT Swiss 1.1's laced three-cross to Chris King hubs. . . .

Depending on your budget, you can get a good steel sport touring or cross frame and build it up to less than 20 lbs., a little more with racks and fenders.

--I haven't seen many (if any) sub-20-lb touring bikes. Maybe bikes with braze-ons for racks, but nothing I would consider a true touring bike.
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Old 04-03-09, 10:23 AM
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I'm going to echo a few things here, but good points are worth repeating:
-if you already have 4 bikes, do you really need an all-rounder? I have a few trail bikes, a tour/utility bike, and a roadie with fenders which i use for most things that don't involve ice, trails, and carrying stuff. It's fast, comfy, and good for everything that doesn't require traction or capacity
-if you truly want a good all-rounder, you want a steel cross bike. many ppl above mentioned their favorite cross bike(s), many of which were steel. the truth is, you can't go far wrong. pick one that suits your budget, has components you dig, or is available at your fave bike source

I don't know if this'll help the OP, but it'll help most ppl who conducted a search and came up with this thread. someone above mentioned different wheelsets, and the difference that can make. This is so true, provided you use different tires, too. If i had to have one bike (thank goodness that's not the case), it'd be a cross bike with a compact double and a mtb rear end, with 3 wheelsets: something light, hot, and stiff with 700x23 tires for speed, something fairly light, fairly strong with the biggest knobbies the frame'd fit for dirtier action, and something very very very strong (and heavy) with schwalbe marathon+s for tours, commutes, and reliability. Funny thing is, i don't have such a bike. Go figure. Maybe i should sell my whole stable, and create something like that?

I doubt if i'd wanna, but it's comforting to know that i could
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Old 04-03-09, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by surreal
I'm going to echo a few things here, but good points are worth repeating:
-if you already have 4 bikes, do you really need an all-rounder? I have a few trail bikes, a tour/utility bike, and a roadie with fenders which i use for most things that don't involve ice, trails, and carrying stuff. It's fast, comfy, and good for everything that doesn't require traction or capacity
-if you truly want a good all-rounder, you want a steel cross bike. many ppl above mentioned their favorite cross bike(s), many of which were steel. the truth is, you can't go far wrong. pick one that suits your budget, has components you dig, or is available at your fave bike source
The logic in needing another bike (and i am really thinking it won't be my fifth...more like my 3rd after i consolidate") is that I am lacking what you probably define as a tour/utility bike. Road cant do racks...and honestly ever since i turned 40 i think i find myself enjoying a more relaxed geometry with larger tires...call me old but i think high pressure 23s on some of the roads i ride on are a young persons game!...I do love my fixed redline 925...nice steel bike..rack/fenders...fun as hell to ride...28s do good enough job of providing some cushion but also some speed...but thinking i may want some gearing for longer rides / touring (doubt could tour fixed...would be interesting to try...i do live in midwest and could try a tour around lake michigan which would be mostly flat.....hmmmm)...the recumbent is always fun / unique but not very firendly towards touring / commuting...at end of day i have have come to conclusion i am somewhat overthinking....will just pull trigger soon and do something...right now top runners are Jamis Aurora Elite, LHT, or Crosscheck...sure i would love any of those choices...I just need to stop the overanalyzing (well that and get my stinking taxes done to figure out if i owe uncle sam money or get some back!)....thanks for all your guys input!
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