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Old 04-06-09, 06:50 AM
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Tires for Iceland tour?

I'm trying to plan out a tour of Iceland this August... for the moment, I'm envisioning that 2/3 my route would be on the coastal Ring Road, which I understand to be reasonably well-paved these days and not so steep in general. However, I'd very much like the remaining 1/3 to be in the unpaved interior... though I've done some research, I'm still not quite sure what to expect in terms of what these roads/trails would require suspension and tire-wise.

I've seen many people recommend mountain bikes for the interior, but I don't have one and besides, it sure wouldn't be ideal for the portion on the Ring Road anyway. My road-style touring bike (an Ebisu) has served me well on casual not-too-technical dirt trails in California and now France -- it has 700c wheels, triple with road cassette, and no shocks, but it can take big tires and I've got supplementary "cyclocross" brake levers on the flat part of my handlebars, so I won't need to be in the drops to brake. I'm hoping that beefy tires (e.g., 700x43) would suffice... this would assume that the hills aren't too steep and the paths aren't completely covered in ruts, drops, and other "technical" obstacles. I know I'll be pushing the bike in places and am OK with that... just don't want to be pushing for entire days.

I prefer to tour as light as possible, but this tour will inevitably need a tent, cooking equipment, and weather gear... I already have Panaracer Pasela TourGuard tires on there, which should be perfect for paved roads. I was thinking of packing foldable knobbies for the interior. This way, I don't need to compromise with hybrid tires yet I still should have a reasonable backup pair in case of disaster. Assuming this plan isn't completely crazy, I'd appreciate recommendations on knobby, wide 700c tires... I seem to be only finding cyclocross "racing" tires, which are not only expensive, but would probably wear down quickly and not be so puncture-resistant. Bruce Gordon's "Rock N Road" tires might have fit the bill, but they are no longer available...
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I'd use Schwalbe Marathon XRs for the whole tour and not bring any other tires. I run 35mm x 700c on my LHT and I don't take them off if I am doing a 100% paved tour as they roll quite well. I still haven't had a flat with these tires.
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Originally Posted by vik


I'd use Schwalbe Marathon XRs for the whole tour and not bring any other tires. I run 35mm x 700c on my LHT and I don't take them off if I am doing a 100% paved tour as they roll quite well. I still haven't had a flat with these tires.
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I am using these on some totally gnarly surfaces here in China. I just met a guy thats been on them (in a 35) for two months touring thailand, loas, china -- said he's been getting incredible mileage and very few flats. this is a great tire. they do roll very well, I also dont remove them for pavement touring. also, I have not had a flat yet (in 2 months)
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. You got me looking at the Marathon line, and it seems the XRs have been succeeded recently by the Marathon Extreme and Marathon Plus Tour:
https://www.schwalbetires.com/marathon_extreme_home

The Extreme is looking very appealing for my desired tour. (I'm expecting lots of loose, sandy, and occasionally steep terrain once I get off the pavement.) Maybe I'll get these in 700x40, but keep the skinnier Paselas on my bike until I get off-road... they fold and weigh practically nothing.

If anybody else wants to chime in, I'm still open to other suggestions!
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and I, m'self, would carry a spare marathon. I wouldn't carry the other tires. marathons roll very well.
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Even thought they are new, I narrowed it down to the Extremes for a tour I am doing in June. Schwalbe claims they are as good if not better than the XRs but considerably lighter. I told them I will be on gravel/dirt for the majority of my ride and that's what they recommended. I am looking at 26x2.0s and the XRs are 790 and Extremes are 570 grams. That's about a 7 ounce savings per tire with no compromise. You will notice that when pedaling.
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Originally Posted by aroundoz
Even thought they are new, I narrowed it down to the Extremes for a tour I am doing in June. Schwalbe claims they are as good if not better than the XRs but considerably lighter. I told them I will be on gravel/dirt for the majority of my ride and that's what they recommended. I am looking at 26x2.0s and the XRs are 790 and Extremes are 570 grams. That's about a 7 ounce savings per tire with no compromise. You will notice that when pedaling.
Definitely post about how the new tires performed when your tour is over. I'm curious to see how they stack up. I've been very happy with XRs, but if you can really get the same performance and a significantly lighter that would be great....
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I toured around Iceland last summer. We originally planned to go through the interior but decided against it after riding on some unpaved sections in the southwest. My bike has 700c 35mm wheels. The unpaved sections can be very rough (sand, big loose rocks, permanent washboard). I'd highly recommend you consider using a mountain bike if you want to go on an interior route. In fact I saw only one other cyclist using a road touring style bike during our whole trip and we met lots of cyclists.

If you don't want to get another bike, I'd at least get some fat tires and run a lower pressure through the roughest bits.

If you have any other questions about cycling in Iceland feel free to PM me.
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Definitely post about how the new tires performed when your tour is over. I'm curious to see how they stack up. I've been very happy with XRs, but if you can really get the same performance and a significantly lighter that would be great....
Will do.

Just received them in the mail today. If someone would have told me a few years ago that I would be spending over $200 on three bike tires, I would have laughed. I could have almost done my car for the same amount. I guess there are more expensive, less healthy addictions, eh.

Pattern looks the same as the XRs. When you think about it, 7 ounces per tire is a lot of rubber missing but I am sure the folks in Schwalbe R and D know what they are doing.
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Ok, thanks for the advice everyone... I pulled the trigger and ordered my Marathon Extremes in 700x40c last weekend. I'll trial them on some local dirt trails before committing this bike on a tour of Iceland... perhaps loaded with my weekly grocery run. Even if they don't end up giving me confidence for Icelandic conditions, I'm sure they'll be excellent for plenty of dirt excursions closer to home. If they indeed roll as fast as my current tires, maybe they'll stay on as my commuting tires as well.
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post pics of the ebisu!
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Well here are some photos of the Ebisu -- not what I was hoping to post though. The tires arrived this morning, and they indeed look like they'd be awesome on loose dirt trails. At first, I was worried whether they'd fit on my rims, but that turned out to be no problem at all. So the plan was to stick the wheels back on and head out to some trails to test them out... and then head to the office. Not so fast... Turns out the 700x40c has knobbies on the side that are just a tad too long and rub against the frame, both in the front and rear.

So here I am, still at home (oops, will have to make up the work hours later!), and tried every small adjustment I could think of, but can't get rid of the rub. I've even tried various tire pressures, hoping it might bulge upwards instead of outwards, but no dice. In the front, it only rubs partially on one side, and it'll probably just barely clear if I perfectly true the wheel. In the rear, it's a little tighter.

I might be able to exchange them for the narrower 700x35, though I bought online so it would be a hassle. (Plus I'm not sure they'll accept a return since I've already mounted the tires.) But, as this size seems perfect for the job and it's soooo close, I'm tempted to simply sandpaper down the offending knobbies. Is this crazy?

Any other tricks to try before I resort to such drastic and tedious measures?
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How frustrating. One of those things you don't know until you try. I would not sand or modify the knobs for the sole reason that if your wheels became even a little out of true, the tires would probably rub again. You really need more clearance. I would buy the 35s and try and ebay the tires. I doubt the retailer will accept a return once mounted. I feel your pain.
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get the 35's, because aroundoz is right, you are trying to get too big a tire in that frame. That said, the 40's could work.....

Trimming down knobs is easy and works very well- use an exacto knife.
I have done it many times with MTB tires.
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No kidding, this isn't what I had in mind for my day. It kills me to see these gorgeous tires mounted begging to be taken out, only to be stopped by a millimeter of extra tread. I really thought the frame would've been good for tires up to 43 or so, but then again there's so much variability between tire brands. Well I'm off for the weekend so I'll have to revisit this next week. A friend thinks the front can easily be corrected with a wheel dish adjustment even with no tire mod, so it's just a question of whether to lob the rear tire's knobs or to exchange/ebay the set. I am tempted to try the exacto knife... I've done it on my MTB *shoes* before to fit my pedals!
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