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Old 04-23-09, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by m5nardi View Post
... especially since Cyclesafe himself wants his efforts to look like some public service he's doing.
It isn't about doing a public service. It is about self preservation. When I am camping I do pretty much the same.
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Old 04-23-09, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mrhedges View Post
. [snip] ... It is interesting to note that ** genitally ** speaking most women are more physically desposed to long distance touring since they have higher endurance...
Say again??
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Old 04-23-09, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by balto charlie View Post
I can't believe you folks are afraid of kids. Being afraid of women is one thing, being afraid of people is another but kids...more often than not they are honest. Ain't nothing better.
I'm personally not afraid of children. I just don't like them, with occasional exceptions. Even when I was a child I disliked children. However, I can understand a person, particularly a man, not wanting to spend time with them, especially unsupervised. As for the honesty of children, that's a myth that's survived from before the Salem witch trials to after the McMartin Preschool case.
 
Old 04-23-09, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by machka View Post
i have no problem conversing with strangers on a forum because it's my choice and my time etc. ... And it's quiet ... But i look at the sounds humans make to each other as noise polution ... Almost up there with cigarette smoke polution.

When someone smokes in your vicinity, the smoke infiltrates your atmosphere and violates your personal space. When someone speaks in your vicinity, the sound infiltrates your atmosphere and violates your personal space. When someone speaks to you and expects a response it's an even greater violation of that personal space.

That's probably a completely unheard of concept to many people ........................... Especially to cellphone users or the people who insist on yapping in elevators. :d



i've gone several days in a row, on several occasions, without uttering a sound .... I often wish others could do the same. silence is golden.
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Old 04-23-09, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyclesafe View Post
So how do you talk your way out of this one?

9 year old Sally or Billy bumps literally bumps into you on your way to a campground bathroom. Scared, she/he starts crying and screaming that you touched them and runs back to Daddy. You're screwed buddy. I think you'd agree.

Now, here's a hypothetical relevant to this thread:

In the course of an unsupervised conversation with a solo female stranger you have inadvertently made her "so offended by his reasoning at this point that its a little difficult to have a civil conversation about it". Now can you really say it is impossible that that person might complain to the authorities and be so vinctive as to even embellish what happened to a degree that the legal system was invoked?
Actually, I don't agree. But then again, as a misanthrope I naturally hate children, and it should be obvious enough that even nine year olds would stay away from me. Back before I embraced my misanthropy I worked as a tournament director for scholastic chess events, and the other TDs told unruly kids that I'd eaten a child at the last tournament. That got them quiet.

As for the 'unsupervised' discussion with a 'solo female stranger', if we have been talking so long that I've risked offending her, she's not a stranger.
 
Old 04-23-09, 09:53 PM
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The difference between smoking near somebody and saying 'Hi' to somebody is that smoking today is no longer socially accepted to the same degree that it was half a century ago. It would (I imagine) have been unreasonable 50 years ago to expect a smoker to, without a request, know to walk away from others when lighting up - it was not something that was commonly done. Today, while it's perfectly fine to make it known that you're not interested in chatting on any given day, I find it preposterous that one should expect others to avoid them. Like Raphael, I find it nice that most people in North America are friendly and willing to strike up a conversation with a stranger. That's the way people here are, in general, and so if it doesn't suit you, unfortunately the onus is on you to let them know that.

As for equating Cyclesafe's strategy with respect, I cannot but shake my head. My grandma told me a couple of times that, back in the days when in Poland like in much of the rest of Europe Jews were not particularly well-regarded, some of her neighbours would, when seeing a Jew or a Jewish family walking down a sidewalk, make a bee-line across the street in order to pass them from the distance of the other side of the street. I'm not so sure it was respect that was given and received...
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Old 04-23-09, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BengeBoy View Post
[Personally, I have decided to alternate: on even-numbered days I'm nasty to everyone; on odd-numbered days I inappropriately proposition every one, regardless of gender. I keep a gender-neutral "behavior chart" in my map case so I don't forget which day it is.]
I found it easier to be nasty to everyone all the time. I lose less riding time that way.
 
Old 04-23-09, 10:26 PM
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I've tried 2 days now to add something to this thread ... but in the end, I think I'd just better avoid it.
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Old 04-23-09, 10:26 PM
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This has been an interesting thread. Some of the things brought up I would never have thought about. Made me think a little about the differences we all have. The one common link is the bicycle and not much more than that. In some respects that is a good thing. I will assume personal risk on the bike and also when it comes to meeting new people along the way.

Life is a risk if you live it. I don't go out of my way looking for trouble but I don't want to live a life that is fear based. For me I have to take risks. Make myself available to help others and hope for the same in return.

If we pass along the road please say stop and say hi. both male and female. I'm sure I will be looking for tips and information about the road ahead. I will share what I have learned as well. We will both be better for it.

I will trudge the road of happy destiny with joy and a smile. Hope to get one in return. Even if you are a gurl
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Well said kyakdiver!
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Old 04-24-09, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Randochap View Post
I've tried 2 days now to add something to this thread ... but in the end, I think I'd just better avoid it.
Probably a smart choice. While I really didn't say anything that I didn't mean or anything I really wish to retract, on hindsight I might pass if I had it to do again.
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Old 04-25-09, 03:43 PM
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I wish to retract my poor spelling.
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*group hug* (or *understanding nod*, as appropriate)

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Old 04-26-09, 12:58 AM
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I just have to say...I LOVE women

Women tourists really turn my crank.

Also, I see a lot of solo female tourists. I saw at least three on my last weekend trip to Victoria.
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Careful what you wish for... Imagine a world where everybody "respected" each others private space and "right" to a noise-pollution free environment to the point where no-one ever said anything to anyone else...

Is that what he meant?

"Imagine all the people living life in peace..." John Lennon

Now I'm going to do as other (much wiser than myself) contributors on this thread have done and shut up
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Old 04-26-09, 08:31 AM
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Here is One

This young lady seems to be getting by. She writes a really interesting journal.
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http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/FirstJourney
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
I have no problem conversing with strangers on a forum because it's my choice and my time etc. ... and it's quiet ... but I look at the sounds humans make to each other as noise polution ... almost up there with cigarette smoke polution.





I've gone several days in a row, on several occasions, without uttering a sound .... I often wish others could do the same. Silence is golden.
Ummm, are you sure you really want to be a teacher?
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Old 04-26-09, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TOLOCOMan View Post
Ummm, are you sure you really want to be a teacher?
My love for silence during the evenings, weekends, and on long bicycles rides and tours is partly because I've been training to be a teacher and have been teaching.

I get enough noise in the classroom ... both attending classes and teaching classes. I don't need it when I'm out cycling.
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Old 04-26-09, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnaMossity View Post
I just have to say...I LOVE women

Women tourists really turn my crank.
I love women too, but lacking a tandem, I haven't had the pleasure of mutual crank turning!

Also, I see a lot of solo female tourists. I saw at least three on my last weekend trip to Victoria.
Not sure if that can be extrapolated. It's the equivalent of saying: "I just went to Vatican City and there sure were a lot of nuns."
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Randochap: Har har har, ah hyuk!

Also, nuns are hot.
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Originally Posted by AnnaMossity View Post
Randochap: Har har har, ah hyuk!

Also, nuns are hot.
He said "Victoria" not "Victoria's Secret"
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Something is seriously messed up with the guy that started this thread

I really wish the men to women ratio was reversed. The few women that do tour are generally independent and very interesting and a ton of fun.
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Old 04-27-09, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnaMossity View Post
Randochap: Har har har, ah hyuk!

Also, nuns are hot.

Originally Posted by valygrl View Post
He said "Victoria" not "Victoria's Secret"
Lead me not into temptation.

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Old 04-27-09, 01:22 AM
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when i went touring, we had a six person tent. there were seven of us, one was female. she was cuddling up to my friend. it was pretty cute.

edit: here's us

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