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StephenH 04-29-09 04:14 PM

Here in Texas, if you think "park" also add "lake" into your thinking. A lot of the lakes around have parks associated with them that are pretty well unknown except for being near that lake. So you can camp at Lake Lavon, although I have no idea what that little park is called where the campground is. Also keep in mind that these parks are really busy on weekends in nice boating weather, but can be fairly empty otherwise.

SweetLou 04-29-09 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by willibrord (Post 8822463)
Okay, but I believe it is still ilegal to defecate on private property. Wait until you find a gas station with rest rooms or some such.

I have not heard of this. Do you have a link to such an ordinance?

StephenH 04-29-09 11:02 PM

I was just checking in the Texas laws, and looks like it's "criminal trespass" if it's posted by signs or purple stripes on posts or if there's a fence or if you're asked to leave and don't, etc.

willibrord 04-30-09 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by SweetLou (Post 8826208)
I have not heard of this. Do you have a link to such an ordinance?

Obviously it depends on your jurisdiction. Just as different jurisdictions have varying definitions of trespassing on private property, differing ways of posting private property and different penalties, there are usually ordinances about urinating and defecating on private property.

For example;


(2) Prohibited Conduct. It shall be unlawful for any person to urinate or defecate on any public right-of-way, underground platform or concourse, elevated platform serving public transportation facilities, underground or elevated passageways used by the public, railroad or railway passenger stations or platforms, or on the steps leading to any of them, or on any private property used to accommodate the public, or on any private property without the permission of the owner.

vitamaltz 04-30-09 04:04 PM

If you're uncomfortable with the idea of being on private residential land, there is another strategy I use really often. Apartment complexes, strip malls, and office parks all often have a patch of woods behind them. No one really uses these spaces, and even if someone notices you, it's likely to be the Blockbuster employee or the apartment dweller who doesn't really care.

A stealty-colored hammock really does make things easy. Among other things, you can camp on very steep land, which I often find right next to the road. Nobody walks through those areas. Sometimes I camp within sight of the road, but no one has ever seen me because they aren't looking. One thought though; your bike itself is pretty reflective and can give you away if you're in an area where headlights will sweep. It's easy to be paranoid. Just remember that no one, even the most bored police, are driving around hunting for bike tourists sleeping on the cheap.

stevage 04-30-09 04:08 PM

Vaguely relevant: I was recently in New England (I live in Australia), and ended up spending a night sleeping in the back of my rental car, on a private golf course (it was dark). Police arrived in the morning, questioned me, scanned my ID, sent me on my way (well, told me to go sleep 50 metres down the road in a "public" area).

Moral of the story: Even if you get found sleeping on someone's private property, and the police get involved, 2 years in jail is probably unlikely. This was Maine though, not SC.

carkmouch 04-30-09 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by vitamaltz (Post 8831038)
Just remember that no one, even the most bored police, are driving around hunting for bike tourists sleeping on the cheap.

Yeah, people barely notice cyclists when they are on the road, let alone hidden in the woods.

Niles H. 04-30-09 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by vitamaltz (Post 8831038)
I...your bike itself is pretty reflective and can give you away if you're in an area where headlights will sweep....

+1

Having a camouflage tarp to toss over the bike can be very useful at times.

willibrord 05-09-09 10:42 AM

I read this story and it made me think of stealth camping.


"It wasn't their (the Muhs) property," DeFoor said. "State statute says legally you can shoot a trespasser at night on your property, but not on the road, and that's where they were."
Be careful. In some states you can be legally shot for being on private property at night. In Texas for sure. I don't know what other states to which this applies.


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