Lightweight trailer with good road manners, does it exist?
09-29-09, 06:48 PM
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I've toured with both panniers and with a trailer and never had any handling issues with either. And that includes fully loaded panniers on a crit-geometry bike that was clearly never designed for touring. If the planned load fits in my panniers then that is certainly the way I prefer to tour regardless of whether I'm using a racing bike or a touring one.
With the suggested load of less than 25 lbs. I'd much rather carry it using a rack weighing under a pound and panniers weighing about 3 pounds than to use a trailer plus panniers for a total of 10 pounds.
With the suggested load of less than 25 lbs. I'd much rather carry it using a rack weighing under a pound and panniers weighing about 3 pounds than to use a trailer plus panniers for a total of 10 pounds.
09-29-09, 06:52 PM
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Neither does mine officially - that doesn't mean I can't still fit a rack on the back and load it up with panniers. Haven't seen a bike yet that wouldn't allow me to carry a limited amount of luggage.
09-29-09, 07:04 PM
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Well then post a photo or provide a link to the equipment you used, might help him/her out.
09-29-09, 10:19 PM
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these racks will work on any bike
pretty darn sure anyways...
I've put them on bikes that definitely were not thought of to use racks.
these racks will work on any bike
pretty darn sure anyways...
I've put them on bikes that definitely were not thought of to use racks.
09-30-09, 05:19 AM
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careful about generalizing about trailers - the extrawheel trailer carries the load well below the axle. I've ridden 45 mph downhill - no issues. never jackknifes, doesn't sway. I will admit that I have disc brakes on touring bike - so stopping is not an issue either. ALso, I am 195 pounds, so dont know if it feels like its pushing a lighter rider.
using an extrawheel is MUCH more stable than panniers. end of story
using an extrawheel is MUCH more stable than panniers. end of story
09-30-09, 05:27 AM
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Go over to CGOAB and read a hundred or so journals. What will be the common number one complaint, headwinds.
Headwinds don't care how fast your pedaling, but they do love your frontal area.
09-30-09, 06:08 AM
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in that rare event that headwinds are that much worse because of the panniers on an extrawheel, I'll live with that given the significant other advantages of an extrawheel over the competition.
on my china tour I rode on narrow paths between villages near Lijian City, much more fun than riding on roads. I speak mandarin well enough to inquire about alternate routes. I remember thinking how fortunate I was to be using an extrawheel and not some other single or two wheel trailer with smaller wheels, that have the weight higher relative to the axle compared to the extrawheels system.
I used mine on three tours so far and cannot remember thinking about aerodynamic complaints
clearly your experience and the experience of others may very regarding complaints about headwinds
on my china tour I rode on narrow paths between villages near Lijian City, much more fun than riding on roads. I speak mandarin well enough to inquire about alternate routes. I remember thinking how fortunate I was to be using an extrawheel and not some other single or two wheel trailer with smaller wheels, that have the weight higher relative to the axle compared to the extrawheels system.
I used mine on three tours so far and cannot remember thinking about aerodynamic complaints
clearly your experience and the experience of others may very regarding complaints about headwinds
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09-30-09, 03:43 PM
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careful about generalizing about trailers - the extrawheel trailer carries the load well below the axle. I've ridden 45 mph downhill - no issues. never jackknifes, doesn't sway. I will admit that I have disc brakes on touring bike - so stopping is not an issue either. ALso, I am 195 pounds, so dont know if it feels like its pushing a lighter rider.
using an extrawheel is MUCH more stable than panniers. end of story
using an extrawheel is MUCH more stable than panniers. end of story
The low speed maneuverability is still an issue, though. There is still this big articulating thing on the back of the bike.
09-30-09, 06:21 PM
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A trailer is overkill if all you're going to do is carry 25 pounds of gear.
09-30-09, 10:04 PM
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Couldn't disagree more. I've toured months with panniers and don't know that I'll ever use a bob, but my panniers are absolute sails while the bob is as aero as can be.
Totally pissed me off on a recent tour. As a big guy I pay a big penalty going uphill. It's not right that a skinny woman could go all aero with her bob and keep up with me going downhill.
Totally pissed me off on a recent tour. As a big guy I pay a big penalty going uphill. It's not right that a skinny woman could go all aero with her bob and keep up with me going downhill.
10-02-09, 05:27 AM
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Having being a touring cyclist for around forty years I'm conversant with headwinds and their fondness for my ever-increasing "frontal" area. I remain unconvinced however that this will impact in any real way upon whether I use a Bob or whether I use an Extrawheel trailer. As someone who has used both, I see it as a non-issue.
