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Old 10-08-09, 07:18 PM
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Offroad Panniers

Anybody got experience with Panniers made for offroad touring on a Mountian bike? I've been using a pair of Nashbar Mountian Panniers but the fastening system isn't all that great. I've read about the Jandd Mountian Panniers and they look promising.
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yes - it's called a Bob Yak.
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+1 on the yak.

I'm looking to buy some OMM racks for my suspension fork, may help balance out the load a bit.
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https://www.epicdesignsalaska.com/

I haven't used them personally, but a lot of people doing expedition mountain bike tours seem to be using their stuff. They make frame bags and other solutions for putting gear on a mountain bike.
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Old 10-08-09, 07:59 PM
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Thanks, I have thought about getting a Bob but I was concerned with towing with a trailer across rough and/or sandy terrain.
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Since the question was about panniers and not trailers: Off pavement touring requires racks that do not move and panniers strongly attached to the immovable racks. The panniers need compression straps to keep the load from shifting and throwing you off line on rough roads and trails.

Bruce Gordon racks solved the moving rack problem for me and Robert Beckman Designs [formerly NeedleWorks] provided the panniers over 25 years ago. They are still working as well as new including the Divide Ride and much more. An investment for touring over the long haul though apparently expensive at first look.
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www.OldManMountain.com

regardless, things are going to bounce around when off road, pack accordingly.
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Old 10-08-09, 11:22 PM
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Check out arkel.
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i have OMM racks and ortleib panniers on my 26" bike. i can't give enough praise to channing for his racks. i use the canti posts to mount the racks and run discs brakes to control the weight (mechanical is best for touring- simple and easy to tune/repair on the roadside). makes for a very solid mount. as far as the panniers, all you have to do is look at an ortleib bag and you'll get my drift. I alternate between 1.25 slicks, some super mild knobbies, and snow tires. another note- i changed the oil in my shocks from the specified 5wt to 10wt to comp for the extra weight on a loaded bike. worked out really well.
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Old 10-09-09, 12:41 AM
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I have ridden challenging singletrack with my MEC panniers... the clips lock securely and straps keep the bags in place.
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Thanks, I have thought about getting a Bob but I was concerned with towing with a trailer across rough and/or sandy terrain.
You may want to look at the latest issue of Mountain Bike magazine. They have an article about mountain bike touring in Canada. 5 days on single track without a trailer. It is rather eye opening. I don't have the article right now so I don't have the links but I'll post them later.
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I've ridden my bikes with Ortlieb panniers at high rates of speed down dirt/gravel roads and offroad across singletrack and beach sand. They work great. You can add a second lower hook if you want to make them even more secure. I was running Old Man Mountain racks and never had them come loose.
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I've been riding around town with bungies looped from the bottom of the rack over the panniers and clipped to the top of the rack. It makes a big difference on how secure the load is compared to letting all the loose groceries in the bags wiggle around on their own. The few times I've loaded the Ortliebs with a heavy load I can see the top plastic bar bowing outwards. The use of a bungie or ratchet tie down strap looks like it reduces the stress on the mounting hardware as it reduces the weighting and unweighting on the hardware as the bike goes over bumps since it keeps it compressed against the frame and not bouncing up and down as much.
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Old 10-09-09, 10:28 AM
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The few times I've loaded the Ortliebs with a heavy load I can see the top plastic bar bowing outwards.
Get some more hooks (ie, use more than two).
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Old 10-09-09, 11:39 AM
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Bungy over the top as above.

I did this and had not problems even coming down descents like this

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Arkel XM-45, I've used them with great results! They're top loading and the compression strap system secures the contents really well. They're taller and narrower to avoid snagging something on a trail. They are expensive, however the quality is amazing and have enormous carrying capacity.
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Bungy over the top as above.

I did this and had not problems even coming down descents like this

where's the road?
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Old 10-09-09, 01:59 PM
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you mean the picture is of the road?
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I use these Panniers MEC used to sell for MTBs a while back. They work well are very simple, and similar things exist today. They would also be a good model for someone making their own because they are so simple. They are also small apparently on the basis that when leaving the road you can carry less stuff, well OK, need to for ground clearance or something. Still, keeps me lightly loaded. You can see them here:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=69234&page=16

The retention system is two fastex buckle that tighten a loop over the little horns low on the rack. Two metal hooks, and Velcro on the straps to stop the webbing from creeping through the buckles. The bags are designed like rucksacs with snow collars drawstrings, and flaps. Nostalgia for mountaineering days.
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