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Old 11-01-09, 11:42 AM
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Aluminum? stainless? water bottles.

$6.00 at GNC, they are a bit bigger than most bottles so you can carry like three and have more water, or carry two with the same amount of water you'd get from three regular sized bottles.

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How well does that baby open and drink while riding?

And since it is bigger than most bottles, does that mean it will not fit in a regular sized water bottle cage?
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I tried stainless water bottles but I have aluminum bottle cages and they don't work well with each other. I have to wrap the aluminum cages with electrical tape to ge the bottles to slide smoothly in them. I knew it would be dicey beforehand but it's amazing what a pain it is. Also you can't squeeze a stainless bottle like you can a plastic one. I also have a Nathan bottle with a built in straw. My wife found it at REI. It's great that you don't have to tilt your head back to drink while your riding. In urban situations it's hard to keep your eyes off of those car doors knowing that one could open at any time.
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You can get plastic bottle cages for the Kleen Kanteen stainless steel bottles:

https://www.kleankanteen.com/products...een-cages.html

I really like the idea of no plastic taste for the water, but I do like to be able to squeeze the bottle when drinking on the go. Also, I'm not sure how much the steel bottle would heat up if the day is very hot and sunny. I like my Polar Bottles for keeping the water at a reasonable temperature, though I do taste the plastic after a while and don't really like that at all. The Kleen Kanteens have a special cap that is supposed to make drinking easier:

https://www.kleankanteen.com/products...sic-sport.html

I may try these on my next tour.

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Originally Posted by yeamac View Post
How well does that baby open and drink while riding?

And since it is bigger than most bottles, does that mean it will not fit in a regular sized water bottle cage?
to tell you the truth I don't know, I always stop to drink when I'm thirsty, and as Dave Nault mentioned they can be a pain, but mine sit in the alloy cages pretty well, and the "squezing" thing isn't a problem for me either as I always use twist off tops. I used some Acetone to remove the words from the bottles.

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Old 11-01-09, 05:54 PM
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I use a pair of Kleen Kanteen 27 oz. stainless bottles with the Kleen Kanteen bike cages on my touring bike.



The cages are about $7 each with free super saver shipping at Amazon.

The bottles themselves are terrific. No plastic smell or taste. I don't mind not being able to squeeze them. I stop for drinks while touring anyway. 54 ounces of water (2 x 27 oz.) gets me quite a ways down the road. I've never had a problem with the sun heating the bottles too much.

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Yeah, +1 for the Kanteens. Food-grade stainless steel is the way to go. Aluminum ones have a liner inside that is affected by acidic/carbonated drinks, and up until recently, might leach BPA as well.
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I use a pair of Kleen Kanteen 27 oz. stainless bottles with the Kleen Kanteen bike cages on my touring bike.



The cages are about $7 each with free super saver shipping at Amazon.

The bottles themselves are terrific. No plastic smell or taste. I don't mind not being able to squeeze them. I stop for drinks while touring anyway. 54 ounces of water (2 x 27 oz.) gets me quite a ways down the road. I've never had a problem with the sun heating the bottles too much.

Kleen Kanteen 40oz is $25.00, I paid $6.00 for the same size. do they sell 40oz cages?
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Originally Posted by NeilGunton View Post
You can get plastic bottle cages for the Kleen Kanteen stainless steel bottles:

https://www.kleankanteen.com/products...een-cages.html

I really like the idea of no plastic taste for the water, but I do like to be able to squeeze the bottle when drinking on the go. Also, I'm not sure how much the steel bottle would heat up if the day is very hot and sunny. I like my Polar Bottles for keeping the water at a reasonable temperature, though I do taste the plastic after a while and don't really like that at all. The Kleen Kanteens have a special cap that is supposed to make drinking easier:

https://www.kleankanteen.com/products...sic-sport.html

I may try these on my next tour.

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Use these:
https://www.rivbike.com/products/list...product=31-457

They are called "Water bottles of the Imortals" or soemthing like that. They are suppsoedly made of some kind of plastic that does not make the water taste funny and will not kill you as fast either. They are a bit mroe firm than a regualr one but they are stille asy to squeeze! I love them!
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I don't use bike bottles anymore. Plain water bottles in one standard-sized cage and one Topeak Modula cage for 1.5L bottles.

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Dammit Erick, now we're going to get a detailed discourse on why re-using drink bottles is bad for you because of the leaching of some chemical that only occurs after the bottle has been opened the first time.

I've never seen a need for metal bottles. I use Zefal Magnums and I like them.

I have one of the Topeak extendable Modula cages, but have issues with how the top[ of it moves around a lot, and I fear for the durability of the mounts. Experience of others may show differently.
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Plastic bottles here. I like being able to crush them to make the water come out faster.

Fwiw, I've taken to using a hydration bladder for drinking on the bike, then water bottles for serious drinking while stopped. I sweat a lot... I use gatorade-style bottles sometimes, but they're a bit skinny for standard cages.
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I can see the desire for a bottle that doesn't impart a taste on the water, but I think stainless bottles are a step backwards other ways. I personally would not use a bottle that I couldn't squeeze or drink from while riding without having to sit upright. I guess this is less of an issue for riders who sit more upright though.

Do all of you who use stainless bottles either ride in a very upright position or stop to drink? It would seem like these bottles would be pretty awkward to drink from when riding especially if not sitting upright.

I will stick with buying plastic bottles when they are on sale at Performance. Sometimes they have an objectionable taste or odor other times not. I think it depends on the batch, but in any case I find that if run through the dishwasher multiple times and left to air out even the worst are eventually OK. Most of the time they are OK after one washing.
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I'm in the plastic bottle camp, as well. Squeezablity and drinking while riding is important to me.

I've found the cheap old style California Springs bottles to be better than most plastic bottles when it comes to odor and taste.

https://www.bikepartsusa.com/bikepart...=Water-Bottles
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Do all of you who use stainless bottles either ride in a very upright position or stop to drink? It would seem like these bottles would be pretty awkward to drink from when riding especially if not sitting upright.
While touring I stop to drink. 100% of the time.

I stop to take pictures. I stop to eat. I stop to pee. I stop to stow my jacket. I stop to talk to a passing bike tourist. I stop to watch the drawbridge go up and down.

Sometimes I stop to rest, too.
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>While touring I stop to drink. 100% of the time.

Me, maybe 50%.

>I stop to take pictures.

95%

>I stop to eat.

95%

>I stop to pee.

100%. Though I don't get off the bike, usually.

>I stop to stow my jacket.

10%

>I stop to talk to a passing bike tourist.

Heh. I don't think it's ever happened. If I was going the same direction, I think I'd chat and roll.

>I stop to watch the drawbridge go up and down.

Sure, it's better than swimming.

>Sometimes I stop to rest, too.

You can rest on the downhills.
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my klean kanteens had a metallic taste for a while. I hated it. Once the taste disappeared they are cool, but metal does have some drawbacks as others have mentioned here. You can't squeeze them, and the original sport tops (which is what I have) really sucked. literally. You basically had to tilt the bottle up, while sucking to get water. It had a valve to let air in to facilitate flow, and it made this obnoxious sound. I haven't tried the new sport caps, though I am considering it because the lids really make me not want to use the bottles as much. I really like my camelbak bottles, which have none of these problems, and didn't taste like plastic.
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Plastic squeezy bottles for me. It'd kill me to have to stop to drink water. I like to drink little sips all the time. For me, frequent stopping breaks the momentum and gives your legs a nice little opportunity to build up lactic acid. I'm happy with keeping on riding until I want to stop to take a photo etc. Also... not stopping all the time makes you fitter, which I've found is a really pleasant side-effect of touring.
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I've got several stainless from Walgreens, $4 a pop, one small decal. Beats plastic and aluminum from a safety point, and LBS bottles for cost.
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Plastic squeezy bottles for me. It'd kill me to have to stop to drink water. I like to drink little sips all the time. For me, frequent stopping breaks the momentum and gives your legs a nice little opportunity to build up lactic acid. I'm happy with keeping on riding until I want to stop to take a photo etc. Also... not stopping all the time makes you fitter, which I've found is a really pleasant side-effect of touring.

To be clear, there's a world of difference between the way I ride my sporty bikes when I'm out for exercise and they way I ride my touring bike when I'm on vacation. I also prefer solo touring because I can stop (or not stop) to my heart's desire.

I would suggest, however, that lactic acid is your muscles' friend. It's the fuel that makes them go. Athletic trainers have been wrong for many years about the role of lactic acid in muscle exertion. Here's a quick summary article of the new research.

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I've got a couple of Klean Kanteens and I have no problem drinking from them while riding, and I don't sit particularily upright. Finishing one bottle and opening up the next while riding though really has to be done with my hands and not my teeth; the spouts are made of hard plastic and they're a bit tougher to open than my old plastic bottles.
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I just went into an insurance sellers office and picked up two bicycle water bottles! Horray for freebies
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The new Kleen Kanteen sport tops (2.0) are an order of magnitude better. They work pretty much like any other water bottle, with two exceptions: you still can't squeeze them, but the flow is enough I really don't feel the need, 2 they sound kinda like a rabid rodent when drinking. it was just enough to annoy me at first, although now i find it kind of charming.
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I use Kleen Kanteen bottles - not with the tops pictured here but the one that looks more like a bike bottle top. These tops are very easy to suck on so its easy to get water without having to sit in any particular orientation. I'd never go back to plastic bottles with the plastic taste.

The only real drawback is not a good idea to try to drink from them while you are on a particularly bumpy stretch of road, I've whacked my teeth with the hard top a couple of times. But smooth road its fine to drink while riding.
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We have two of them in the house and they really are fantastic bottles. I was sceptical about the price to benefit ratio when I first saw them, but I changed my mind pretty quickly after I got them. There's an insulated version as well.

As a bonus, the thread on these is the standard nalgene bottle type, and therefore they fit directly onto MSR water filters.

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