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Old 12-13-09, 08:51 PM
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When touring how much water/ food should you carry?

I am looking at doing a self supported tour here in the next few months and I am wondering how much food, and water should one carry? I am looking at going to a state park about 60 miles from where I live, spend the night and back the next day. The route I am looking at taking does not go through any towns, so getting supplies at the last moment are pretty well out of the question.

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slightly more than you think you'll want or need
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Hate to say it but........... it depends.

Example being if it's hot or cold. If it's hills or flat and so forth. What I'm going to be cooking.

Give you an idea of hot... When I rode up over a pass near me last summer I started off with 2 water bottle and a gallon jug strapped to my tubus rack. When I arrived at the campsite later that day I was out of water... I figure I had in excess of 10 lbs of water and I was dreaming of more.

Same ride in the spring or fall might be possible with 2 water bottles only. I take each day and try and figure as close as I can to the needs of the day.
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In Utah from the Hite Recreational Area to Blanding is a 73 mile stretch with no services. I had three gallons of water when I started, but at the bottom of each major grade I'd dump a gallon when I realized that there was no way I'd be consuming it. It was probably in the 40's (F) all day and I probably drank no more than about a quart. Carry more than you think you'll need and dump some when you are certain you won't need it.
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What type of meals does one take on tour with them? There are no restaurants connivence stores on the route. So I am looking for ideas on the type of foods to take with me. I have never done anything like this before so I am just trying to get as prepared as possible. I will probably be making this trip solo, due to the lack of people in the cycling world that I know.

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Setting out relatively unprepared last summer for a week and a half I planned to eat peanut butter sandwiches for every meal with trail mix and candy bars. After the first chilly morning, I picked up some oatmeal I could cook on my alcohol stove, and after smelling another cyclists "mountain house" freeze dried meals I supplemented the sandwiches with that. Those are kind of expensive and and not as tasty as other things you could cook up if you have a stove; I ditched the freeze dried meal the next day and from then on ate couscous or noodles with fresh vegetables, fish from a pouch, cheese and bread, along with lots of fruits instead of the candy bars I had planned to eat.
Could you tour on only peanut butter sandwiches or freeze dried meals? Sure. I think that some do. I will not in the future.
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Are you bringing a stove? If I were you I would pack 5 or 6 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, a couple of bananas and maybe an orange for the day rides. I'd bring two packs of instant oatmeal for breakfast. For dinner I'd bring a can of chick peas in a bag, some rice, an onion, a bit of tomato paste, some spices in a bag, and cook up a beans and rice scenario.

Is there water at the site? I would want at least 6 liters of water over the course of two days, including camp use, but I almost never carry that much at one time. It is also depends how hot it is, how hard I'm working, etc. I don't usually ride where I don't have access to water, so I'm not sure.

I wouldn't over think it. Have you done a 60 mile ride before? What did you eat before, during, and after? Times that by two and you're good to go.
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The park that I am going to is a state park, so they have pits for fires, and do have potable water available. I am working on the 60 mile distance, I have been completing multiple 25-30 mile rides this week with no problems. I am looking at doing the trip hopefully next month before it really gets cold.
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The best way I find to do this is work it out on a sheet of paper. For shorter trips like yours, I can do this in my head but I still use the paper for longer stretches without services.

So, you've got a 2 day trip. That means you need:

Breakfast x2
Lunch x2
Dinner x2

Let's assume you can have 1 breakfast at home and 1 dinner at home when you get back. That means you need:

Breakfast x1
Lunch x2
Dinner x1

Now all you have to do is figure out what to eat for those meals and pack it. For a trip so short, I might not bring a stove but if you must have a coffee in the morning, then a stove and a small pot is probably easier than sparking up a fire. Depends on your temperament and interests.

If I had a stove, I'd do porridge for breakfast (small amount goes a long way and will keep you going all morning), then maybe 2 rounds of cheese/crackers/hard sausage/tomato/cucumber for lunch and supper can just be a simple pasta dish. You could get a couple instant pasta mixes if you want or DIY with just spaghetti and tomato sauce and a bit of bacon, for example.

Don't forget to throw in snacks too! I'd carry a good sized bag of trail mix, maybe a dark chocolate bar and some dried fruit.

As for water, it will really depend on the terrain and your personal need for water (I drink far more than Andrew does in the same conditions). I'd take at least 3 bottles for a distance of 60 miles.
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i often bring a 10 liter MSR dromedary bag and fill it sometime in the day if the weather is hot. i will need to fill it up every day pretty much, i can often wait until the afternoon if im passing by a spigot or fill it at camp. i use this in addition to my 4 or 5 water bottles.

i'm a water hog.

works for me.
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It does depend.

Ideally, I buy lunch somewhere along the way to eat at the time I buy it, and then perhaps also pick up dinner that night and breakfast the next morning at the same time. But I also like to travel with a few extra snackies on board ... some cookies, granola bars, fruit, etc., just in case.

In your case, if there really are no sources of food anywhere for the two days of your tour, I'd bring two lunches, a dinner, a breakfast and a few snacks.

As for what to bring ... what do you normally eat for lunch, dinner, breakfast, and snacks. There's no reason to change that just because you're on a tour.


And here's a thread that provides links to many of the multitude of similar food threads that have popped up here in recent times:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...highlight=food

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I settle with the gallon a day.

Lots of ramon noodles.
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60 miles in 7 hours or less with rest stops.

3 liters of water as it's winter and there's water at the camp site.

I'd carry 6 Snicker bars for instant energy, oatmeal, bagels, and coffee for breakfast, package of seasoned pasta and a can of baked beans for dinner. Lunch on both days would be peanut butter sandwiches on bagels, and hard cheese. Bag of trail mix with M&Ms for whenever. (Bagels travel really well.)

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In addition to planning your meals don't forget about snacking! You're burning up a lot of calories while riding so you want to make sure you are eating often. Good foods for this can depend on personal preference but some ideas are bananas, chips (replenish your salt supply!), nuts, granola or trail mix, bread and pb. For water, better too much than not enough but carrying excess water weight will also tire you out faster. If you can replenish at the park you'll need what you'll consume during the day. Have a map in case of emergency you can detour to the nearest village. If you do see a place to stop that has water on your route top up your bottles! For supper I like pasta or rice with veggies as it will keep well without refridgeration but you'll need a camp stove (or pot over a grill on a campfire if the park has grills).
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What type of stove do yall prefer to carry to cook with?
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MSR simmerlite(white gas) is my first choice.. shorter trips my choice is the simmerlite cannister. Seems to cover me for anything. Some around here like alcohol stoves also.
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I like my trangia alchohol stove:

https://www.trangia.se/english/5614.27_series_ul.html
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Having potable water where you plan to camp is a big help- water is heavier than food and you`ll probably go through a lot more of it in camp than on the road. Somebody already said not to overthink it and I agree. You`ve got water at the end of the day, so just carry whatever water you normally need for a 60 mile trip (plus maybe 25% or so since you`ll be pulling a load) and whatever food matches your needs and tastes. Have fun.
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