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Old 04-25-10, 11:16 AM
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Farewell to Classic Steel Tourer

I decided to rebuild and sell this old steel thing that had been hanging in my garage for a couple of years. I completely rebuilt it from the ground up and it sold before I was done. I already miss her, although the new owner is eager to ride her.

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Old 04-25-10, 11:40 AM
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Oh man, bummer. My Dad has one that he bought new in the 80's and still tours on it. Looks brand new, what a classic!
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Old 04-25-10, 11:52 AM
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Nice '84. What did you charge for it?
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Old 04-25-10, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by positron View Post
Nice '84. What did you charge for it?
Why do you think it's an 84? I originally thought it was, but begrudgingly had to come to the conclusion that it is an 85. 600+shipping.
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Old 04-26-10, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rothenfield1 View Post
Why do you think it's an 84? I originally thought it was, but begrudgingly had to come to the conclusion that it is an 85. 600+shipping.
good point, I just knew it wasn't an '83
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Old 04-26-10, 01:36 PM
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Would that be a Columbus sticker on the fork? Don't see too many of them anymore.
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Old 04-27-10, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Would that be a Columbus sticker on the fork? Don't see too many of them anymore.
There seems to be some mystery about who made the frames for the Expedition. The decal on the fork reads "Special Series-Double Butted" tubing. These bike were made from 83-86 and many believe that Miyata manufactured the tubing. However, it may have been Ishiwata or Tange. The Expedition is still considered one of 2 or 3 of the best mass produced steel touring bikes ever made, along with the Miyata 1000 and perhaps the Trek 520. Perhaps hyperbole, perhaps not.
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Old 04-27-10, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rothenfield1 View Post
There seems to be some mystery about who made the frames for the Expedition. The decal on the fork reads "Special Series-Double Butted" tubing. These bike were made from 83-86 and many believe that Miyata manufactured the tubing. However, it may have been Ishiwata or Tange. The Expedition is still considered one of 2 or 3 of the best mass produced steel touring bikes ever made, along with the Miyata 1000 and perhaps the Trek 520. Perhaps hyperbole, perhaps not.
Not hyperbole, they are great bikes.

The sticker says special series cromo double butted tubing and is meant to look like a reynolds/columbus type thing...

Miyata almost certainly made the frames, and the tubing is probably tange or ishiwata 022. whatever the case, specialized rebranded some really good kit back then, so it wasn't crappy. I can't recall the evidence I found about the Miyata heritage, but it was an analysis of certain details that were the same between the 1000 and the expedition. I recall being pretty convinced...

Do you have the original pedals? I recently picked a set up at the bike swap, and Im in love with them. Theyre giving my old favorites, the SR SP11's a real run for the money.
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Thanks for the history. '86 is when I started to ride again as a adult. Ishiwata and Tange are names I haven't heard in ages.
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I know how you feel. I recently sold my 30-year old steel touring bike with panniers to a young lady just this March. It was the bike I got married on during a bike tour in Arizona among other adventures I had on it in the US and Mexico. A lot of memories wrapped up in those silly steel thingys. http://www.zaun.com/freschi/
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Old 04-27-10, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by positron View Post
Not hyperbole, they are great bikes.

Miyata almost certainly made the frames, and the tubing is probably tange or ishiwata 022. .
Just wanted to clarify before this thread disappears. Miyata was one of the only bike manufacturers who actually drew their own tubing. So, if Miyata did build the Specialized Expedition, it most certainly would have been Miyata tubing. My understanding is that Tange and Ishiwata where smaller tube manufacturers whose tubing was then assembled by other companies, just as Reynolds 531 chromoly tubing was used. That's my understanding anyway. Not that it matters that much today since probably 'all' mass produced bike tubing is made by Chinese and Taiwanese manufacturers using scrap metal from the U.S.
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Originally Posted by rothenfield1 View Post
There seems to be some mystery about who made the frames for the Expedition. The decal on the fork reads "Special Series-Double Butted" tubing. These bike were made from 83-86 and many believe that Miyata manufactured the tubing. However, it may have been Ishiwata or Tange. The Expedition is still considered one of 2 or 3 of the best mass produced steel touring bikes ever made, along with the Miyata 1000 and perhaps the Trek 520. Perhaps hyperbole, perhaps not.
My guess is that it was Miyata who made the Expedition frames. I picked up an '86 Expedition on Ebay a while back. That year the Miyata catalog shows that the top tube jumped 1cm, and it was just for that year. My '86 matches their specs perfectly. Here's a link to all the old Miyata catalogs. Enjoy!
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I had one of those - wish I still did. I gave it to a friend a while back - hopefully he's held onto it!
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