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AlroyD 03-20-11 03:57 AM

Hi.
Thanks for alerting us all about this danger. I normally apply sun protection to my face, ears, neck and arms, but never to my legs or hands and don't own leg/arm "warmers" or long cycling gear. I guess I will have to step up. Even on a cloudy day, protection is needed

Northwestrider 03-20-11 08:15 AM

I've been using a long sleeve Jersey for years as well as long pants of some sort. I don't feel that much warmer dressed this way than if I wore short sleeve shirts, and shorts.

wrobertdavis 12-27-12 04:34 PM

Has anyone tried out the dabrim visor? http://www.dabrim.com

Firetngguy 12-27-12 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by wrobertdavis (Post 15092963)
Has anyone tried out the dabrim visor? http://www.dabrim.com

I've been looking for something like this. Thanks! This looks like it would also help when cycling in the rain.

There a numerous reviews online for the Da Brim. I found the following most informative:

http://lovethefold.blogspot.com/2012...ng-report.html
http://pathlesspedaled.com/2012/12/r...m-rezzo-visor/

I try to do most of my summer training mileage in late evenings or early mornings as the midday UV really works a number on me. On tours and all day rides I have tried several methods, none of which work well. I have a Coolmax Buff that works pretty good until the temperatures exceed 80F, after that it's just too hot to wear something around my neck and ears.

Do you have any suggestions for a long sleeve jersey suitable for hot humid weather?

aenlaasu 12-28-12 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by wrobertdavis (Post 15092963)
Has anyone tried out the dabrim visor? http://www.dabrim.com

Yes! I've been beating my head against the wall, trying to figure out how to make something like this since shoving a wide brimmed hat under a helmet wouldn't work! :D

Thank you!!

Ekdog 12-30-12 12:00 AM

Could your sunscreen be causing cancer?

http://www.ecoevaluator.com/lifestyl...-sunblock.html

thecrunge 12-30-12 10:14 AM

Excellent link! Everyone should be aware of the carcinogens in regular sunscreens.

seeker333 12-30-12 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by wrobertdavis (Post 15092963)
Has anyone tried out the dabrim visor? http://www.dabrim.com

No.

For years I used a cheap cotton bandana tucked under helmet and shirt collar. Plus sunblock.

Last couple years, recognizing the bandana is simply too thin and lacks adequate opacity/sunproofness, I took an old white hand towel, cut off some corners to reduce fabric bunching up under helmet, and wear it as a sun cape. It wraps clear around to my face, and fully covers neck, part of back, ears, and some of face. I place it on my head, secure it with a coolmax Headsweats dew-rag thingy, then put on shirts, which keep it tucked into place up to 30mph. I wear 2 long sleeve shirts (polypropylene lightweight thermal underwear with OSHA yellow UV-dyed "safety" tee shirt on outside. It is hot in 100F weather, but you can get used to it. Of course, you look like a nut doing this, but it's a safe assumption that you already look like a nut to most people from simply riding a bike in the first place.

Rowan 12-30-12 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aenlaasu (Post 15094388)
Yes! I've been beating my head against the wall, trying to figure out how to make something like this since shoving a wide brimmed hat under a helmet wouldn't work! :D

Thank you!!

Have you thought of something like this (the pictures are over a decade old, come from an on-line journal of two people cycling around Australia, and I don't have the source information):

bikenh 12-30-12 12:27 PM

Gee, if the sun doesn't give you cancer then the lack of sun will. You need Vitamin D to prevent cancer. The source of Vitamin D is the sun. I don't ever put on suntan lotion. I'll take my chance of getting skin cancer versus all the other kinds of cancer that I could get by not getting enough Vitamin D.

mm718 12-30-12 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 15100582)
Have you thought of something like this (the pictures are over a decade old, come from an on-line journal of two people cycling around Australia, and I don't have the source information):

or this...... http://pathlesspedaled.com/2012/12/r...m-rezzo-visor/

WingSuit 12-30-12 06:34 PM

Even though I live at 49 degrees north, and what sun there is comes at an angle, i use those white sun sleeves that look like arm warmers, and a cycling specific skull cap, also white to protect my head from the helmet vent sun beams. The back of me neck looks like a catchers mitt, though, even though i use that non greasy neutragena sun block. Maybe its too late, when i was a kid, i burned to blisters a few times.

MadCityCyclist 12-30-12 06:45 PM

I developed my own solution; I taught myself how to sew (not usually the first thing a heterosexual guy learns to do) and created my own sun shield, which is pretty close to what your modified sun cape does. I made 4-5 of them before winter hit (I opted for more insulated protection after that), and I'll start making more spring/summer protection soon.

It's not dorky when you know what the consequences are.

WingSuit 12-31-12 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by bikenh (Post 15100648)
Gee, if the sun doesn't give you cancer then the lack of sun will. You need Vitamin D to prevent cancer. The source of Vitamin D is the sun. I don't ever put on suntan lotion. I'll take my chance of getting skin cancer versus all the other kinds of cancer that I could get by not getting enough Vitamin D.

It only takes 20 to 30 minutes of sun on your face to get enough or vitamin D production, for "normal" people. If you have a lab tested vitamin D definciency, you need to take a D-3 supplement, avilable over the counter. More sun wont get you to the level you need.

swix 12-31-12 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by WingSuit (Post 15104331)
It only takes 20 to 30 minutes of sun on your face to get enough or vitamin D production, for "normal" people. If you have a lab tested vitamin D definciency, you need to take a D-3 supplement, avilable over the counter. More sun wont get you to the level you need.

this is just plain wrong sorry. 20 minutes would be more like face, back, chest, and arms. JUST face would be not only dumb (concentrating sun in any one spot would be bad), but ineffective to boot.

Also, if you have a lab tested deficiency why in the world would a d-3 supplement be better than your own bodies natural process..? our bodies have the ability to produce all the vit D they need if given the correct environment. vit d supplements are SOMETIMES needed in deficient people above the ~37th parallel in the winter where the UV rays are not strong enough for your skin to produce vitamin D but avoid blanket statements, too many variables.

Way to much crap info out there on skin cancer/vit D. Most news programs basically tell you not to go outside these days. such fear mongering is part of the problem not solution to the overall cancer problems we face... skin protection is HUGE don't get me wrong, Vit D levels are HUGE as well.

WingSuit 12-31-12 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by swix (Post 15104891)
this is just plain wrong sorry. 20 minutes would be more like face, back, chest, and arms. JUST face would be not only dumb (concentrating sun in any one spot would be bad), but ineffective to boot.

Also, if you have a lab tested deficiency why in the world would a d-3 supplement be better than your own bodies natural process..? our bodies have the ability to produce all the vit D they need if given the correct environment. vit d supplements are SOMETIMES needed in deficient people above the ~37th parallel in the winter where the UV rays are not strong enough for your skin to produce vitamin D but avoid blanket statements, too many variables.

Way to much crap info out there on skin cancer/vit D. Most news programs basically tell you not to go outside these days. such fear mongering is part of the problem not solution to the overall cancer problems we face... skin protection is HUGE don't get me wrong, Vit D levels are HUGE as well.

Why dont you do a little research, you might be surprised by the facts. Good luck to you, you'll need it

swix 01-01-13 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by WingSuit (Post 15106336)
Why dont you do a little research, you might be surprised by the facts. Good luck to you, you'll need it

Instead of that meaningless comment maybe you could enlighten everyone...? I'm no doctor but I spent a number of weeks reading and watching all I could get my hands on regarding Vit D and know far more than most. I have the facts and research papers/doctors to back up my statement. Always ears for more info though..

Jim Kukula 01-01-13 06:33 PM

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...j/IMG_1368.jpg


I find the UV buff comfortable even in quite hot weather. It keeps the sweat out of my eyes! The little brim on mine though isn't so useful. A brimless UV buff with that DaBrim visor.. that might be just the ticket!

wrobertdavis 01-01-13 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Firetngguy (Post 15093551)
Do you have any suggestions for a long sleeve jersey suitable for hot humid weather?

I wear a short sleeved cycling jersey with Desoto arm coolers. http://www.swimoutlet.com/ProductDet...FetDMgodckgAUQ. I wear them 8-9 months of the year in Houston, Texas. I rarely use sunscreen on my arms.

Ekdog 01-02-13 02:18 AM


Originally Posted by wrobertdavis (Post 15109002)
I wear a short sleeved cycling jersey with Desoto arm coolers. http://www.swimoutlet.com/ProductDet...FetDMgodckgAUQ. I wear them 8-9 months of the year in Houston, Texas. I rarely use sunscreen on my arms.

I've tried just about everything and have finally come to the conclusion that my old, long-sleeved, linen dress shirts are the coolest way to keep the sun off while riding in the summer.

Ekdog 01-02-13 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by Jim Kukula (Post 15108511)
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...j/IMG_1368.jpg


I find the UV buff comfortable even in quite hot weather. It keeps the sweat out of my eyes! The little brim on mine though isn't so useful. A brimless UV buff with that DaBrim visor.. that might be just the ticket!

Isn't that a bit extreme? Or are you extremely sensitive to sunlight?

Jim Kukula 01-02-13 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Ekdog (Post 15109791)
Isn't that a bit extreme? Or are you extremely sensitive to sunlight?

No, I am not especially sensitive. Is it extreme? Unusual, yes. But actually it is quite comfortable. I tend to get a kick out of doing things in peculiar ways, a sort of scientific exploration of the limitations of social conventions. Ha, that makes me think of the new Sherlock Holmes movies! Yeah, that is my kind of hero!


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