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Old 07-05-10, 07:09 PM
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Ortlieb front panniers "jumping" off of rack

I recently purchased a pair of Ortlieb Sport Packer plus panniers for my front rack (Surly). I did a couple of training rides this past long weekend with a pair of 15 lb dumbells in the panniers. I had a problem where when I hit a modestly large bump going down a hill (aprox. 20 mph) the panniers "jumped" off of the rack and ended up in the road. Luckily, the couple of times this happened, the panniers didn't hit my bicycle's rear wheel or my Bob trailer.

What am I doing wrong? I don't want to be going down Kancamagus Highway later this summer and have my front panniers wipe me out.

There are two hooks (11 mm for the Surly rack) on the top of the panniers from which the bag hangs and a third hook in the bottom front corner that angles up at a 45 degree angle.

Your advice is appreciated.

Thanks,
Rob
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Make sure the top hooks are on all the way. There is a piece of plastic that should wrap around underneath the rail of your rack. When you put the pannier on the rack, push down a bit of the top of the hooks, the part where the small strap is coming out, and make sure they snap into place. I've had mine come off a couple of times if this wasn't secure.
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the panniers will take a lot of abuse and swinging around and rough riding as long as the hooks are secure.

I try to position the hooks so the hooks are abutting a cross brace on the top of the rack and stop the pannier from moving fore-aft on the rails, then tensioning the lower hook by setting it when pushing it against the lower leg of the rack as well.

but if the hooks are fully secure, ORTLIEB PANNIERS AREN'T going to blow off the rack. sometimes they will throw a lower hook, the tops only if they are not on right. something is wrong, is your rack an oversized model? what gives?

I and I'm sure many others have taken Orts on some heinous roads with largely good results.
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there is something wrong. Do you have the right inserts in the hooks?

It's also possible that the loose bar bells are bending the lower hook off but the upper hooks can only come off if the pull strap unlocks them.
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Your panniers should have come with a few little plastic 'shims' which click into the hooks to fit various thicknesses or rack tube - make sure the right ones are fitted, and the pannier can slide snugly onto the rack tube and allow the locking system to engage.

If your rack has a top plate, it might also be worth using the wee clip fastener to attach both panniers to each other (across the top of the rack plate).
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This happened to my riding partner on a recent Central American tour. But just once. She has an older set of what look like the backroller classics (not sure of model - they're purple if that helps). She was distracted by someone on the side of the road and didn't see a big pothole. It was a good 8 inches deep. Lost both rear panniers but managed to keep the bike upright. We rode over lots of gravel and rough roads on that tour but that was the only time either of us had lost a pannier completely. I had one top hook release on the left rear after a nasty bump, and I had plenty of instances where the bottom (plastic) hook would get bounced and bent enough to escape from behind the forks, but that was mostly because initially I didn't have them adjusted properly.
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my preference is to bungie bags down with a long bungie looped from the bottom strut over the bag to the rack. This reduces windage when the bag is empty and helps stabilize the contents from wobbling around. Just make sure the bungie can't pop loose when hitting bumps.
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Originally Posted by Al Downie
Your panniers should have come with a few little plastic 'shims' which click into the hooks to fit various thicknesses or rack tube - make sure the right ones are fitted, and the pannier can slide snugly onto the rack tube and allow the locking system to engage.
Thank you everyone for your replies.

Between twodeadpoets' video and Al's reply, I think I figured out what I did wrong. I did have the 11 mm shims inserted into the hooks. But the problem was I inserted the shims backwards (notch facing inwards instead of outwards). With the shims backwards, the 'hook' couldn't come out underneath the rack to lock it tight.
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