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An Interesting Proposal From Koga-Miyata

Old 09-19-10, 06:05 AM
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Sure, I get your point. That doesn't negate mine...
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Old 07-05-13, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by skilsaw
The LHT meets your preferences and is already bought and paid for. The Koga bikes don't.

Keep your freedom. Don't accept the sponsorship because then they will have expectations and you will feel obligations. Keep it your tour. No strings attached.
I have to agree with skilsaw. Make a journal blog etc.. but on your own terms, without the "strings attached". You can seek sponsorship from Surly or other(s) after your tour. Save your money for expenses that you cannot foresee before your journey, and that really might come in handy, considering how much ~$1700US can buy you in the less developed countries you will cross.
Let your project be your own. Don't accept any sponsorship unless it costs you absolutely nothing in terms of money/time/and effort other than the trip you have planned out for yourself. It helps to do some kind of humanitarian or social work for "free" sponsorships. For example, teach kids how to do basic bicycle maintenance. Even if they just give you $100 its worth it.

Your bike looks like a dream come true, and I imagine you have spent a lot of time and money on it. You probably also know it very well mechanically, which I believe can only be an advantage on an adventure this long.

I wish you luck. Ride safely.
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It's not really a sponsorship.

It's a shop discount with strings attached.

A sponsorship would be supply of a free bicycle.
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Originally Posted by zeppinger
I live in Seoul, South Korea where touring is relatively unheard of. I have been working with a local shop for the last few months. They just began importing the Koga-Miyata brand and are looking to sponsor someone. I have been giving their staff some training in the English language and was a keynote speaker at a private event called "Koga Day" where I gave a short lecture of touring.

I am going to riding from Beijing to India (possibly even Cairo) in March of next year. I have been building up my current bike, a Surly LHT, and its pretty much all set up. The Koga, either the Traveler or Randonnuer model, would both be great bikes and probably higher quality than my Surly.

The bike shop, Biclo, has already offered to take 1,000,000 won (about $850) off of the landed price of the bike in exchange for photos and journals about the bike. I would rather not post on the internet what that price is in fairness to Biclo but I can say that is not a huge amount less than their store price which is 3,200,000 won (about $2,600). This discount would bring the bike around $1,500-$1,700. I know thats a great price for such a nice machine but I also think that in some ways the Surly might be better for the kind of third world touring I am talking about. Simpler parts, easier repairs, ect...

On the other hand this could be a great opportunity for me to make a name for myself in the touring world. Biclo is currently waiting for a reply for Koga HQ about additional sponsorship which could bring the price down further and put my name on their website as a sponsored rider.

I am very torn. $1,500-$1,700 is still a lot of money for a bike and would certainly go a long way in funding my trip.... I love Koga bikes though!
You are giving up your rights to your photos and journals for practically NOTHING. It's a standard practise by a lot of media companies today and sponsored companies. Give discounts after MSRP which is basically the cost of the bike itself. In the past, bike companies give sponsored riders a FREE bike. You are paying for the bike at cost and then in return, you signed off your creative rights for which, in the future, can be used to write books and sell speeches. Too many people fall into the trap because they do not know what the potential of new media can earn them. Many media companies are hungry for new media content, so they would pay nothing to creators in exchange for content. Media companies are laying off pulitzer prize winner photographers and story writers because they cost too much. In return, they fool people like yourself to hand over your stuff for free or for a measly discount. They then turnkey your content into money making machines! Kaaa-chingg!

I work in the media industry and my advise to you is, NEGOTIATE for a better deal. They need your content, so that's your leverage. Go for a complete new bike period. If not, then tour and then look for a publisher later and you will preserve your rights.

Hope this helps..

PS. I've seen too many people being abused and taken advantage off in the new media internet era.
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Originally Posted by KogaMiyata
I have to agree with skilsaw. Make a journal blog etc.. but on your own terms, without the "strings attached". You can seek sponsorship from Surly or other(s) after your tour.
You do realize that this is a zombie thread. Mr. Zeppinger is currently a graduate student in the States.
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