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Fitting a Rando Type Rack for Light Touring on Surly Cross Check

Old 10-08-10, 10:02 AM
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Fitting a Rando Type Rack for Light Touring on Surly Cross Check

For light touring duty, I have a Surly Cross Check with an Old Man Mountain rear rack and a Jandd frame bag.

I've been toying with the idea of adding a rando-type front rack. The Velo Orange one here https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...ess-steel.html is particularly "purty".

Question is, how to fit it to the Cross'. Have any of you all used a similar setup? Any better racks for the purpose out there? Mounting options?
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P-clamps on the fork legs, bend the tang up and bolt that to the crown.
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Hi Al. Thanks for the quick reply. Do you know of any photos of how to do it? I am still a klutz when it comes to my mechanic skills.
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Originally Posted by safariofthemind
Hi Al. Thanks for the quick reply. Do you know of any photos of how to do it? I am still a klutz when it comes to my mechanic skills.
Velo-Orange sells this, which should keep you from having to bend anything:
https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...-eye-bolt.html

As for the p-clamps, they're just clamps. Velo-orange sells them, too. However, if you don't like the idea of p-clamps, you could order a new 2011 Cross Check fork with mid-leg eyelets.

This rack will just bolt up to your Check, but may be on the small side:
https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...nter-rack.html

Finally, though it's a little less "purty," you could get an Old Man Mountain front rack for the absolute minimum-effort-install.
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I'd look into the Nitto M12 rack. I believe the overall design (solid strut to fork crown + legs attached to canti bosses) should be more rigid. It's designed specifically for bikes with cantilever brakes, so not all bikes can take advantage of its design. Nitto is well known for quality.

https://www.treefortbikes.com/product...ront-Rack.html

The VO rack looks nice, and it's design allows it to be used on most bikes regardless of brake type. If you think you'll want to move the rack to a bike with sidepulls in the future, then this might be your better choice.

Take a look at cyclofiend.com to see what other CC owners have used for front racks.
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Velo-Orange website has instructions for their stuff so check that out.

I have read that the Nitto M-12 rack doesn't match up right with the Cross Check because of the massive tire clearance on the fork, but you can use the Sunlite/Nashbar front rack that also attaches to the canti posts like the M-12 does. It is not as elegant but it fits a Cross-Check and it is dirt-cheap if you get it on sale.

The new Cross-Check fork with the mid-fork eyelets makes sense, then you can use a regular front rack and put standard front bags/panniers on it. Soma has a fork for their Double-Cross that would work also and it is a slight upgrade from the Cross-Check fork in terms of the steel that is used, but you probably wouldn't notice the difference.
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Hey, that M12 looks sweet too. Thanks. Anyone here have a link/photos of how it looks mounted? How about mounting a small pelican case in there to carry electronics/maps/etc. in? Max 10 lbs.
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You can view some images of the M12 on a CC here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21201950@N07/3068351457/

Google should fine others. I believe there was some info on one of the google groups indicating that the diagonal distance from the mounting point in the fork crown to the cant boss(es) should be near 10cm for the M12 to work well. Per Al Criner's post, it may be worth confirming.
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Originally Posted by desertdork
I'd look into the Nitto M12 rack.
$75!?!? Man, I'm in the wrong business...

I've heard good things about the Blackburn low-rider and the Nashbar copy of it. Not sure if they're still available.

I distinctly _don't_ recommend the Axiom and it's knock-offs; don't ask me how I know this...

I saw a nice low rider that attaches to the brake bosses somewhere; also not cheap but I'd guess better than the Nitto, or at least worth the money you'd pay for it.

Surly now makes a drilled fork for the Cross Check. In black only -- can't remember the price but then you can get a rack that fits fork bosses.
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Thanks for the pics links.

The $75 price for the M12 is actually "normal/not bad" considering it is steel, has a high level of workmanship, and it's made in Japan where labor costs are high. It should last a long time. Skilled welders are expensive. The expectation on a rack like this is that it would last a lifetime with proper care whereas an aluminum copy... well, sometimes you get what you pay for. Our hobby isn't the cheapest, and specialty non-mass-produced items even more so.

Any other steel racks out there, maybe not as nice and shiny, but sturdy and well welded? The Old Man Mountain rear rack is black. https://www.oldmanmountain.com/Pages/...RearRacks.html They do have some front racks, but they are not as attractive.
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The OP should definitely look into a canti boss mounted rack. I'm sure VO has one. You can occasionally luck out and find a vintage TA for considerably less than the new price of a Nitto. I'm not sure it's worth the bother though.

Originally Posted by Pedaleur
$75!?!? Man, I'm in the wrong business...
Pretty funny given the fact that if you were in the business you'd probably be charging upwards of 3 times that like all the other framebuilders that build custom racks do. And framebuilding is hardly known for being a lucrative business.
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Vielen Dank unterhausen.

What does TA stand for?

Seems like the whole Rando/Vintage "scene" is a distinct subculture, with Velo Orange, Riv and others catering to it. Don't know much about it other than I like the retro look.
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Spécialités T.A.

A French component manufacturer.


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Originally Posted by jwbnyc
Spécialités T.A.

A French component manufacturer.
That doesn't actually answer the question, what does T.A. stand for?
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