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TheDazed 02-04-11 02:34 PM

I have axiom champlains for rear panniers and I can easily get 50 pounds of stuff in each one. Perfect for beer runs. I dont use the platform for much as my hammock and sleeping bag fit in my bags.

I just associated the higher weight capacity with more durability, which is what I'd want for touring.

DW99 02-04-11 07:02 PM

Dazed, it looks like LeeG has your questions covered, certainly more thorough than I could be.

On the cross levers, they were a pleasant surprise for me, as I stated on another thread, I didn't know they came on the bike when ordered. You may want to check at your LBS or ask them to check to make sure they all do, mine came with cross levers, can't say they all do though. It did not come with the toe clips as listed but the lbs ordered a set for me at no charge.

On the chainrings, the fifty is not a concern for me, if I change a chainring it will be the small one, the 30. Not sure I will change it, future hills will tell, but my feeling is that a 26 or 24 would be better.

The only real panniers I have are the Axiom LaSalles, really like them, perfect for my purposes. I also us the Nashbar daytrekker on the front some times, small but useful, will probably get others, maybe another set of the LaSalles in the future.

The 440 chainstays have not been a problem.

hybridbkrdr 02-05-11 05:53 AM

Nashar touring fork $49.00
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes//Produc...2_511246_-1___
Nashbar touring frame $99.00
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes//Produc...2_511239_-1___
Shimano Deore LX trekking (touring) groupset (crankset, rear derailleur, front derailleur, shifters, brake levers, brakes, cassette, chain) as low as 271.21 euro (depending on which options you choose); with shipping to North America (means you don't pay European VAT tax) is $368.33 US dollars (the exchange rate fluctuates)
http://www.bike24.com/p29129.html
WTB Freedom Ryder 23 rims 36 hole $18.45 (times two = $36.90) (I put the link here from eBikestop for people who want to order from Canada, shipping for large items is cheaper from eBikestop last time I ordered)
http://www.ebikestop.com/freedom_ryd...rim-RM2241.php
Shimano Tiagra rear hub 36 hole $27.89
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=414678
Shimano Tiagra front hub 36 hole $19.84
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=407883
(I haven't chosen that yet, you can look below why)
Velox rim strip $1.83 (times two = $3.66)
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=432533
Dimension spoke protector $3.00
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=419815
Sunlite wheel reflectors $2.49
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...oducts_id=5777
DT Swiss Champion 14g (2.0mm) spokes
for rear wheel
(I measured both hub and rim and used two sizing calculators for that rim and rear hub and chose 287mm and 289mm spokes, 18 of each length)
287mm $0.43 (times 18 = $7.74)
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ducts_id=32422
289mm $0.51 (times 18 = $9.18)
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ducts_id=32640
for front wheel using this calculator http://lenni.info/edd/ says it's 290mm both sides
290mm $0.51 (times 36 = $18.36)
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ducts_id=32638
DT Swiss Champion 12mm, 2.0mm brass nipples $0.26 (times 72 = $18.72)
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ducts_id=32619
Dimension chainstay protector clear $5.95
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=501118
Origin8 classique sport seatpost 27.2mm x 300mm silver $26.08
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=509738
Origin8 seatpost clamp 31.8mm gold $5.99
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=431892
Origin8 headset spacers 1-1/8" (ten x 10mm) silver $6.20
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=431892
Origin8 headset threadless 1-1/8" gold $31.99
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=431753
Origin8 stem threadless 1-1/8" 25.4mm silver $21.99
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=431946
Origin8 handlebars 625mm long 25.4mm clamp 40mm high silver $19.80
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=431636
Black Ops platform pedals clear $14.99
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=432203
WTB Freedom Relax saddle light brown $36.98
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=433923
Dimension hand-stiched leather grips light brown $14.88
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=408543
Continental tubes 700x28-47mm Presta $6.26 (times two = $12.52) (or the thicker Michelin tubes)
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=424089
Continental TourRide tires 700x37mm $26.96 (times two = $53.92) (or Michelin Tracker tires) (you can also get these in cream color with reflective strips from bikexperts.com in Germany if you ask them)
http://www.amazon.com/Continental-To.../dp/B0013DZGVG
Well, here the total without the shipping cost for amazon.com, niagaracycle and eBikestop and cost of assembly is $915.40
Sunlite bottle cages $1.99 (times two if you want $3.98)
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ducts_id=12697
Sunlite Tec HD tourer rack $24.99 (these were actually all silver when they arrived)
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=430988
Axiom Rainrunner trekk reflex 700c fenders $54.00
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=426889
Avenir Softside City panniers $42.56
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=507460
Trek Lime bell $7.99 (you can click on additional views to see the 8 colors, I would choose white)
http://store.trekbikes.com/jump.jsp?...ProductID=1439
Civia two leg kickstand $27.00 (right now I'm not sure what the top plate model means yet)
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=710999
Halo hex key skewers $15.00
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=12529
Cateye Strada cycling computer CD-RD100 $21.51 (this one is the black on sale but I've seen the white on sale before)
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ducts_id=13708
The total at this point would be $1112.43
Kryptonite Kryptolock Value Series 2 (make sure to grease the mechanism inside) $32.16
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ducts_id=30504
Giro Hex helmet $67.95 (depends on size, color)
http://www.amazon.com/Giro-Mountain-...6885571&sr=8-2
Dimension eyeglass mirror $10.50
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=411405
Fox Racing gloves $21.95
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ucts_id=702678
Bellwether rain jacket $119.99
http://www.amazon.com/Bellwether-201...888369&sr=1-44
Bellwether AquaNo pants $60.39
http://www.amazon.com/Bellwether-Aqu...6895452&sr=8-3
The total at this point would be $1425.37
If you chose to go with a dynamo front hub and front and rear dynamo lights, this could be a choice
Busch&Muller D'Toplight Plus rear dynamo light 17 euro
http://www.bike-x-perts.com/en/produ...ucts_id/133927
Busch&Muller Lumotec Lyt Plus 25 lux front light for dynamo hub 24 euro
http://www.bike-x-perts.com/en/produ...ucts_id/359500
(you could also choose the IQ Cyo 60 lux front light but that's 64 euro)
http://www.bike-x-perts.com/en/produ...ucts_id/359497
Shimano DH-3N72 dynamo hub 58 euro (actually, I wanted to choose the Deore LX model for this message but the spoke calculator did not include this one, I can only measure it once I order it)
http://www.bike-x-perts.com/en/produ...ucts_id/242167
(The spokes for this would be 283mm both sides with the WTB Freedom Ryder 23 rim)
DT Swiss Champion 283mm spokes $0.49 each (times 36 = $17.64)
http://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.asp?id=92390
So, if you chose a dynamo hub 58 euro, front light 24 euro, rear light 17 euro (plus the 283mm spokes minus the 290mm spokes and Tiagra front hub), it would be $1539.26 without the shipping from bikexperts
I'm a little surprised I did all this work. But, please tell me if I missed any bike parts. :)
You can always use the frame sizing calculator at ColoradoCyclists.

Spudd 02-05-11 11:01 AM

Did you contact Europe Bound and see if they still have the Opus Largo in stock? It's also local (ish, depending on where you live) and the price is less than the Fuji you're looking at. Bike Depot does give 5 years of free service with the purchase of a bike, though, which is pretty appealing.

TheDazed 02-05-11 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Spudd (Post 12182590)
Did you contact Europe Bound and see if they still have the Opus Largo in stock? It's also local (ish, depending on where you live) and the price is less than the Fuji you're looking at. Bike Depot does give 5 years of free service with the purchase of a bike, though, which is pretty appealing.

I just called them and they do have them for $950 right now. $150 cheaper than the Fuji Touring. I'd like to hear some experienced bicycles tourists say which of these bikes they would prefer. Is the fuji worth the extra $150. Aesthetically, I think I prefer the fuji. The largo has a strange fat fork, but parts-wise they seem to be pretty similar.

Obviously I'd prefer to spend less if possible, so tell me why I might want to spend the extra on the fuji.

fietsbob 02-05-11 01:21 PM

parts can always be swapped, some times it's a must, to make it fit properly,

Spudd 02-05-11 05:06 PM

I don't know how much Bike Depot will be willing to bargain, but I got my Largo from Europe Bound for $750 or so. It came to just over $800 with tax. If the ones they still have are the same (2007 model, white/green paint), you should be able to bargain them down to there. I didn't even really try.

lucille 02-05-11 05:55 PM

The spring bike show is in a month. I suggest you go and have a look around. They may have last year models or older for a good price.
I don't think anybody mentioned Devinci bikes, they make touring Caribou. Aluminum frame.

Europe Bound sells bikes now???

TheDazed 02-05-11 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Spudd (Post 12183888)
I don't know how much Bike Depot will be willing to bargain, but I got my Largo from Europe Bound for $750 or so. It came to just over $800 with tax. If the ones they still have are the same (2007 model, white/green paint), you should be able to bargain them down to there. I didn't even really try.

It was Europe Bound that I called. On Front st. Perhaps its the new model?

Spudd 02-07-11 06:10 PM

I think that the price tag on the one I got said $950, but they bargained me down to $750. LOL.

The advice above about the spring bike show is also good. There's bound to be lots of selection there.


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