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Old 01-26-11, 03:18 PM
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What LeeG said. Car tires can be reliable because cars have huge engines that can push a heavy slow tire. This isn't really an option for bicyclists.

On the other hand, I have a 1970 Bianchi folding bike that has gone 40 years without a flat. Or even needed the tires aired up. The wonders of foam filled tires!
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Old 01-26-11, 03:30 PM
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I kind of feel that you can't be a real cyclist and hate flats, they are going to happen to you one way or another.

I haven't had a puncture flat in quite some time, but I've had a few pinch flats, and a few valve stem failures in the past few years. It takes all of 5 minutes to change a tube, maybe push it to 6 or 7 if you want to patch it. I've had to stop longer than that to shoo cows out of my way, or try and figure out just how lost I am.

These things happen, but they don't have to be painful. Getting angry at the inevitable is a recipe for unpleasantness.
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Some people have more flats then others because
a. they routinely ride in the debris at edge of the road constantly, thus increasing likelihood of puncture,
b. they've chosen to use very light weight tires and tubes with thin rubber, which are predisposed to increased puncture rate,
c. they were unlucky and got a bad tire, tube or patch kit (adhesive), and
d. they don't know how to change a tire properly, failing to inspect for wire/thorn in the tire casing, failing to inspect the rim strip for proper seating, or are rough with installation and damage the tube, thus increasing likelihood of having an immediate re-flat after the repair process.

I have been very fortunate with regard to flats, and this is an area of personal superstition so I will not elaborate on this subject.
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Originally Posted by seeker333
I have been very fortunate with regard to flats, and this is an area of personal superstition so I will not elaborate on this subject.
say no more, say no more.
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Old 01-26-11, 06:42 PM
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actualy there is a god of flats for tourers:

when it's late, as night becoming to be really dark and i want to continue because i didn't find a suitable place to sleep... *POOF* a flat occurs and then i find a nice place to camp in 5mn! and next day i can see that it was a secure and very quiet place to rest.




on the left my tent, in front the road from osh to sary tash in khyrgyzstan
children living in the house on the right i met next morning:



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Old 01-26-11, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by marmot
BTW, has anyone tried those foam-filled non-pneumatic tires? Are they any good at all?
Yes, and they are not only worthless but dangerous. I had one roll off the rim. Luckily, I wasn't going very fast. I hate to think what could have happened, if for example, I had been riding downhill in traffic, only to suddenly find myself on my front rim.

Besides that, they caused a shimmy that was pretty unsettling.

Totally worthless POS and dangerous on top of that.

The crooks from Nu-Tek wouldn't refund my money either.

I'll change the occasional flat instead.
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Originally Posted by tidi_bear
actualy there is a god of flats for tourers:

when it's late, as night becoming to be really dark and i want to continue because i didn't find a suitable place to sleep... *POOF* a flat occurs and then i find a nice place to camp in 5mn! and next day i can see that it was a secure and very quiet place to rest.
There certainly is some higher reason; I still remember that one epic ride, it was me and three of my friends, and between the three of them, something like 8 flats in as many miles. Somehow I made it through without a scratch on my Panaracer Paselas (not even Tour Guard).

Of course since I was the only one of the group who could change a flat quickly, my immunity did little good.
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I don't think I have ever had a flat on my bike that I didn't feel was overdue. Lucky, I guess. (Lucky that I don't have many flats, and lucky that sometimes it is a conversation starter.)
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degan posted:
I think part of the reason why you see a lot of pictures with tags like "stopping to fix a flat" or something along those lines is because that is when people are able to stop and take pictures.
You are right, I was just asking "why do you always get to take hte pictures!". This one was caused by an 1.5" wood screw. I'm not too sure the kind of tire would have made any difference..

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Originally Posted by Doug64
You are right, I was just asking "why do you always get to take hte pictures!". This one was caused by an 1.5" wood screw. I'm not too sure the kind of tire would have made any difference..


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on my longer tours with 4 panniers, handlebar bag, tent etc, I actually never had a flat-5 trips, longest was a month. Used some kevlar thingee, IRC I think. 28s.
In town or here and there, I usually get 1 flat per year give or take. Makes sense as there is so much more crap on the road in the city.

**I am convinced though that be being aware of what is on the ground in front of you and missing stuff makes a huge diff. I tend to watch as I go, last flat in the fall of 2010 (my only one of the biking season) was in the dark, and Im sure I didnt see the stuff that I would have in the day.
Some people dont look where they ride. I also find that when I start to "get flats" its time to buy a new tire.
I also have the habit of if I do ride over glass that I see at the last second, I immediately stop, and run my hand over both tires to see if there are bits stuck in the rubber--I figure that a 1 min stop and "rub" is worth a tube replacement shortly down the road.
Im also a lightweight, 140ish, so that maybe helps.
Keeping tires at a good psi is also a big help for flats I find.

so all in all, its not a big deal. (touch wood)
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