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Old 02-20-11, 12:50 PM
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Lake Superior Circle Tour

I've read several blogs re: a Lake Superior circle tour via bicycle, but can find nothing within the past 2 years. Anyone done it recently, or least a part of it? I'm most interested in the road conditions, especially looking for roads that have shoulders. Appreciate any suggestions.
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I think you'll probably get more response, here in the main touring forum.
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I've read that 11/17 in Canada is not recommended for touring. It's the equal to I80 in the U.S.

Have not done it, though.
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I did the Michigan side of Superior last July and loved it enough to do part of it again in October for the colors. I took a bus to Ironwood, MI and started my trip by heading toward Superior. Porcupine Mtns, Keweenaw Penisula, Marquette, Munising, Picture Rocks, Grand Marais, Tahquamenon Falls, to Brimley. All the roads were paved except 15 miles between Grand Marais and Deer Park. H58 between Munising and Grand Marais is now paved the entire way. You do need to be on the major roads at times but they all had good shoulders. It has some great campgrounds and plenty of places for food and water. I will do it again in my future.
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joel2old - any problem with mosquitoes along that route? How is the traffic on 61? In Google Earth it appears to have good shoulders all along.

Edit: Oops. Disregard question about 61 if you didn't ride it. I thought you meant Grand Marais, MN.

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simplygib - Hwy 61 from Two Harbors to Grand Portage is 2 lane with some shoulders but does have some longish stretches with no shoulder. It's a busy road on weekends. If you plan to ride it I would recommend during the week and start early. It is a beautiful ride!
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" any problem with mosquitoes along that route?"

I went the end of July and had no great problem with mosquitoes. I don't remember ever putting on mosquitoe spray! Didn't have to worry about them in October.
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Some answers for the Minnesota parts:

Hwy 61 - There is some nasty, the worst of it being near near Silver Bay, despite it being a designated bike route. Try to hit it midweek or off season, lots of tourists in RVs and only the locals are polite. Fortunately most of the road is great, and I've heard the traffic is generally better past Illgen City, which is the furthest I've ever been on bike. Hop on the Gitchi Gami trail where segments exist. I believe 21 miles are actually completed out of 86, so while you'll get dumped out on the road often, it's a nice break from the traffic while it lasts. Paradoxically, some of the worst parts of 61 are between trail segments, whereas areas where you can avoid the road by way of the bike trail have wide, smooth shoulders.

Mosquitoes - Always depends on the year. Generally the wind from the lake will be on your side and discourage them. Stray too far and you'll get eaten alive if it's been hot and wet. I'd say absolutely carry some heavy deet, but don't stress out over it.

Unsolicited advice - This was brought up on another Lake Tour thread, but it's worth mentioning again that the Minnesota state park campgrounds(Gooseberry and split rock especially) often fill up in advance. Most of the private campgrounds are ridiculously expensive. There are national forest campgrounds (Eckbeck or Finland on the Baptism river are beautiful) which are a bit out of the way, but never seem to fill up. If you hang around while folks are being turned away at the park gates, you might even be able to get a ride to the far flung ones. The Marina campground in Grand Portage has some tent sites hanging over the lake, which are usually available.

Oh, and have a pasty or Beargrease burger at Betty's Pies in Two Harbours! Absolutely fantastic.
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Tansy you may not be aware but MN State parks have an unwritten rule that they will not turn away someone arriving on a bike and needing a campsite. They do have overflow areas for this.
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Originally Posted by oldride
Tansy you may not be aware but MN State parks have an unwritten rule that they will not turn away someone arriving on a bike and needing a campsite. They do have overflow areas for this.
Be aware I've read some blogs where bikers were turned away early in the day. I think the rule is based on arrival at the park after a certain hour. 4:00 rings a bell to me but I'm not positive.
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Originally Posted by Cone Wrench
Google maps street view is your friend.
Yes it is, and I use it often. But despite looking at many sections of 61 in street view I didn't know, for example, that there were other sections with narrow shoulders. Trying to do street view around the entire 1250-mile circumference of the lake is a bit more time consuming than asking a simple question here. Street view is also sorely lacking in resolution good enough to spot mosquitoes.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
I've read that 11/17 in Canada is not recommended for touring. It's the equal to I80 in the U.S.

Have not done it, though.
Highway 17 in Ontario is not really comparable to I-80. It does form part of the Trans Canada, so it's a continent-crossing road, but it's not a divided, controlled-access freeway. It's mostly a two-lane road with many passing lanes, mostly on long grades.
While bike touring on busy highways does not appeal to me, many tourers ride the north shore every year. According to online trip reports, many enjoy it. The scenery is spectacular, the shoulders are wide and paved and the folks are friendly. On the other hand, the distances are great, there are a lot of hills, the towns are small, few and far between, and there's heavy truck traffic at times. Late spring and early summer will be buggy -- bring repellant.
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Originally Posted by marmot
Highway 17 in Ontario is not really comparable to I-80. It does form part of the Trans Canada, so it's a continent-crossing road, but it's not a divided, controlled-access freeway. It's mostly a two-lane road with many passing lanes, mostly on long grades.
While bike touring on busy highways does not appeal to me, many tourers ride the north shore every year. According to online trip reports, many enjoy it. The scenery is spectacular, the shoulders are wide and paved and the folks are friendly. On the other hand, the distances are great, there are a lot of hills, the towns are small, few and far between, and there's heavy truck traffic at times. Late spring and early summer will be buggy -- bring repellant.
Actually, the shoulders are fairly narrow. A foot at the widest.
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Originally Posted by paul2
Actually, the shoulders are fairly narrow. A foot at the widest.
I can't vouch for whole route, and I don't want to mislead anyone, but much if not most of the north shore has shoulders like this, near Goulais River:
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Originally Posted by badger_biker
Be aware I've read some blogs where bikers were turned away early in the day. I think the rule is based on arrival at the park after a certain hour. 4:00 rings a bell to me but I'm not positive.
can we see these blogs?


And if they turn you away during the day, can you simply ask where can you sleep latter on? I really don't think this is an issue here in Minnesota.
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Originally Posted by wheel
can we see these blogs?


And if they turn you away during the day, can you simply ask where can you sleep latter on? I really don't think this is an issue here in Minnesota.
Here is quote from one CGOAB journal where I first heard about the time reference:

"When we arrived at Tettegouche State Park, just after 2pm, the Campground "FULL" sign was up. We went into the office to see if there was any hiker/biker sites available. The staff person said they only provide overflow camping to hikers and bikers late in the day when they are not able to continue to some other place for the night. I explained that bicycle travel with a child, that she had reached her limit for the day. The park staff person got the park manager and I again explained our situation. He finally allowed us to stay in the "picnic" area. I then tried to make reservations at the other state parks on the North Shore for the rest of our tour but all reservable sites were taken. I tried to get a commitment that there would be overflow camping available at the state parks but could not get any, only that if you arrive late in the day they may make arraignments for over flow camping."

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/p...id=162628&v=6H

I think most reasonable park staff would let you stay but they don't have to. Depending on the distance to another option, conditions, or biker status that could be a problem. Wisconsin parks have to find you a spot but I don't know if that is true of most states or not.

I don't know about you but if I got an early start and had my daily mile quota in by 2:00 when I hit a state park that I wanted to stay at, I would be PO'd to be turned away.
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Originally Posted by badger_biker
Here is quote from one CGOAB journal where I first heard about the time reference:

"When we arrived at Tettegouche State Park, just after 2pm, the Campground "FULL" sign was up. We went into the office to see if there was any hiker/biker sites available. The staff person said they only provide overflow camping to hikers and bikers late in the day when they are not able to continue to some other place for the night. I explained that bicycle travel with a child, that she had reached her limit for the day. The park staff person got the park manager and I again explained our situation. He finally allowed us to stay in the "picnic" area. I then tried to make reservations at the other state parks on the North Shore for the rest of our tour but all reservable sites were taken. I tried to get a commitment that there would be overflow camping available at the state parks but could not get any, only that if you arrive late in the day they may make arraignments for over flow camping."

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/p...id=162628&v=6H

I think most reasonable park staff would let you stay but they don't have to. Depending on the distance to another option, conditions, or biker status that could be a problem. Wisconsin parks have to find you a spot but I don't know if that is true of most states or not.

I don't know about you but if I got an early start and had my daily mile quota in by 2:00 when I hit a state park that I wanted to stay at, I would be PO'd to be turned away.
I emailed them.

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We always allow bicyclers a spot. It may not be the best, but we never turn them away. We advise making a reservation if at all possible.


Minnesota is extremely bicycle friendly. I would never worry about a place to sleep here.
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It has been awhile since anyone posted on this thread, but I was in your shoes a year ago and have since done the ride. It was my (and my partner's) first tour. The roads are fine. The worst section was 61 in Minnesota, where there are almost no shoulders. We went in early June, and many people were hauling their boats up. There were trains of boat hauling trucks flying by, and fog. Seems like right around Lutsen was the worst... Canada had little traffic compared with the MN stretch. In Canada, very wide shoulders on uphills, of which there are more than we expected. Also, tourist season in Canada doesn't really start until June, so that may have had some bearing on the traffic. A few pieces of unsolicited advice: Ride clockwise; don't pay for camping (except at several 'municpal' campgrounds and national forest - Bayview in MI, Herbster in WI, Washburn in WI, and Grand Portage Marina were our favorites); don't ride the purported Gitcheegumi bike trail in MN unless you have time and are desperate to get off of the highway (these trails are MUCH more winding and steep than the highway). We went in early June and had NO issues with any bugs. The Salzburger Hof in Batchawana Bay was awesome and worth the side trip - cheapish (out of season) and GREAT food - I ate the whole meat plate! A life changing experience for me. Highly recommended.
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Originally Posted by Scott Thalacker
It has been awhile since anyone posted on this thread, but I was in your shoes a year ago and have since done the ride. ... Highly recommended.
Scott - Thanks for posting your experience. I haven't read many accounts of that route but most have been less favorable and it is good to see a positive one. Given my similar proximity it is a trip I may explore at some time. Out of curiosity what was the approximate day and mileage total for your trip? Did you leave from home or start closer to the lake?
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Mileage total was just under 1300, with not super accurate computers. We did it in 21 days total, including one half rest day (about 20 miles that day, I think). So we averaged about 60 miles a day. In the UP we started doing century days, or close to it every day. From Thunder Bay to the UP, there were many large hills, for the region, so a couple of 40 mile days there (in the rain) were the hardest, by far. We did have a couple of side trips - including jaunts to Whitefish point and Lake Michigan (into the wind all day). As I said before, we were not experienced cyclists before this - my longest ride ever was about 30 miles. We parked our truck at a friend's house in Ashland and rode from/to there; we did this partly because we were living out of a storage unit at the time. Doing it again, I would try to ride from home, now that we have one! It was an adventure that gives me strength every day! If you want any tips about specific stops, I'd be happy to help, but recommend setting out on your own. We didn't really have much idea where we were going after day two. One nice thing about this route is that you don't have to make many decisions about which road to take!
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Doesn't look like anyone has posted on here in a couple years but I thought I'd share my experience since I rode this solo last August in the event someone else is looking to do it someday. I did a round trip to and from Duluth, MN. I'm from Nebraska so I was fortunate enough to be able to drive up. I made all my camping reservations in advance so I can't speak for the state park issue. I did stay at Tettegouche State Park and it was not full the night I stayed. Here was the itinerary with approximate mileage:

Day 1 - Duluth to Tettegouche State Park (67 miles)
Day 2 - Tettegouche to Grand Marais, MN (62)
Day 3 - Grand Marais to Grand Portage, MN (36)
Day 4 - I took a ferry from Grand Portage to Isle Royale National Park.
Day 5 - Isle Royale to Copper Harbor, MI
Day 6 - Copper Harbor to Hancock, MI (62)
Day 7 - Hancock to Ontonagon, MI (62)
Day 8 - Ontonagon to Ironwood, MI (60)
Day 9 - Ironwood to Washburn, WI (45)
Day 10 - Washburn to Port Wing, WI (35)
Day 11 - Port Wing to Duluth, MN (55)

A couple things to note about the trip....as I mentioned above, I made all reservations in advance except for Port Wing and stayed at either private or municipal campgrounds the whole trip except for a B&B at Port Wing. Regarding the route, the worst stretch in my opinion was from Two Harbors to between Lutsen, MN and Grand Marias, MN. Very narrow shoulders (or nonexistent) on Hwy 61 and traffic can be heavy. I rode that stretch on a Sunday/Monday and would never do that again due to traffic. You'll also come across some logging trucks which can be a little scary. The Gitchi Gami is an alternative but as someone else also said, get your hill legs ready for that. Great scenery on that trail, but very hilly. I rode it for about 20 miles. Grand Marais to Grand Portage is a great stretch of road.

I took a quick overnight in Isle Royale which is worth the trip. The ferry travel can be expensive but they'll transport your bike for a fee. They will either charge you extra for the bike or I got the ferry from Grand Portage to include it in the weight of my luggage which saved me some money. There are no wheeled vehicles allowed on the island but the park rangers allow you to lock your bike up near the ranger station.

The stretch in Michigan and Wisconsin for the most part has good shoulders. Some are a little narrow but generally speaking the traffic was fairly light on those roads. I didn't have much of a problem on those stretches with traffic. Copper Harbor to Ontonagon has some rolling hill stretches so be prepared for that. The climb out of Hancock especially is tough (first 5-10 miles are very challenging)...however, I wouldn't let it discourage you. Scenery is great. I initially had planned on going to Iron River, WI instead of Port Wing but there was road construction. Turned out to be a blessing in disguise. Take Country Road C northwest out of Washburn to Cornucopia and then Highway 13 to Port Wing. Very low traffic and well traveled by cyclists. I met several out on their ride and had coffee with them in Cornucopia. Great ride from Port Wing to Superior, WI (other side of Duluth) but you'll have to go through city streets and neighborhoods to get back over to Duluth. If you can, stay at the Garden House Bed & Breakfast in Port Wing. I made my reservation the night before and it turns out the owners are cycling fanatics so I got treated very well. The Richard Bong bridge from Superior to Duluth has a bike path over the lake that's partitioned off from traffic.

I also worked out an arrangement with the main parking lot company in Duluth and they allowed me to rent a space for one month in a covered parking garage for the time I was gone. If you don't know anyone up there it's a good option.

There's my two cents...highly, highly recommended. Scenery is incredible and take a lot of pictures. Worst stretch is from Two Harbors to north of Lutsen so just ride that on a weekday.
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