Years ago I drove my car cross country and picked up four hitchhikers. They were deadheads traveling from one show to the next and their car died.
They had a ferret. It was an amazing animal. Very social, it would sleep in someones lap, play with me while I was driving whatever. My car had no AC and we were driving across the desert. The animal did fine. Keep him out of the sun and happy, he should be fine. As mentioned earlier, watch out for state and local laws. |
Take 2 in case one croaks.
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Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
(Post 12536468)
Take 2 in case one croaks.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
(Post 12536597)
A backup ferret?:lol:
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mea culpa
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Originally Posted by Cyclesafe
(Post 12534294)
Join and post this on http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/?o=RrzKj. Lots of good people there who are knowledgeable about touring with animals. You won't get many serious answers here.
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Okay wow, so much to process. I have come to my senses and decided that Mufasah is not meant for the long haul. He loves going out to play and has no problems with his harness or meeting other people so this was my reasoning behind taking him out to travel. I would much rather leave him safe at home than lose a really wonderful companion due to my impulsive behavior. He can do small trips and if there is a car involved might be able to visit far off lands.
"WIll it jump out of it's basket, entangling itself in your wheels? WIll it get run over by a car?" -I was going to run with a cage actually, but you made a very good point about other wild animals. I had planned to do camping and couchsurfing and I don't want to endanger myself in the mountains because some bear smells a little creature he has never tried before. I also don't think I will be able to just put a litter pan in the corner of my tent and expect him to use it. He would much rather claw his way out and use a tree. I don't think he would be a danger to other animals because he is a lazy pushover raised on kibble and wouldn't know what to do with a rabbit when he caught it. Thank you for the helpful questions. "Consider this. If the ferret dies, will it ruin your tour?" -absolutely. I have been through a lot of tragedy in my life and I put a lot of my love in the little guy, he helps me stay balanced because I am grounded to earth by his responsibility. I would be heartbroken to lose him by my own hands. Good perspective. "If that 80F figure is anywhere near accurate I'd say forget the idea of taking a ferret on a tour of the south in summer. " -YEA! I totally agree with you here. I mentioned the a/c because I know that is the only way he could survive the trip. While living with a "less than reasonable" roommate last year, who loved living in a room temperature of 82 degrees on average, I learned the ferrets sensitivity to heat. I would get home and gasp from the oven like feel of walking into the house, run up and lower the thermostat, then find the ferrets sprawled out in their cage looking miserable. I will say that they really love a good ice pack on warm days so if there is a way to regulate his body heat I know he would enjoy the sights and sounds of traveling but like I said before, this idea is out the window. While traveling through Florida, 80 degrees was a god-send and 100 was the norm... I guess I just hate the idea of touring alone again. |
Originally Posted by dcrowell
(Post 12536425)
Years ago I drove my car cross country and picked up four hitchhikers. They were deadheads traveling from one show to the next and their car died.
They had a ferret. It was an amazing animal. Very social, it would sleep in someones lap, play with me while I was driving whatever. My car had no AC and we were driving across the desert. The animal did fine. Keep him out of the sun and happy, he should be fine. As mentioned earlier, watch out for state and local laws. hmmmm |
Originally Posted by Cyclesafe
(Post 12534294)
Join and post this on http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/?o=RrzKj. Lots of good people there who are knowledgeable about touring with animals. You won't get many serious answers here.
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Originally Posted by openmindedgent
(Post 12537285)
This changes my mind a bit. My ferret is probably the coolest and chillest ever and he is really good at sleeping so I am sure his body could regulate the heat through siesta techniques although as it gets warmer here I will test that theory. Everything I read about ferrets claims that they just need shade and water in the heat, not that they will die immediately or anything.
hmmmm My 100lb dog could never tour with me. :( |
Yea wow, it would be cool if the 100lb dude could just pedal his own bike :P
I figured the ferret a good traveler due to his size, compact-ability, a chill attitude, and an urge to sleep always. I am on the verge of being homeless so I am gearing up to live on the road and find work as I travel, I want to ride for causes and do good things as I travel, I just was hoping it would be logistical to have Mufasah with me as I go through life as a nomad... Slightly unrealistic, yes, but what exactly is real? |
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badass
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Originally Posted by Thulsadoom
(Post 12538061)
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Shimagnolo is right, ferrets are illegal in more than a few states due to the fact that they are an adaptable species and can become quite invasive when established. Not saying your pet is going to escape and procreate madly but its probably not a good idea at all to take him along IMO...
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Originally Posted by jish1969
(Post 12539930)
Shimagnolo is right, ferrets are illegal in more than a few states due to the fact that they are an adaptable species and can become quite invasive when established. Not saying your pet is going to escape and procreate madly but its probably not a good idea at all to take him along IMO...
Pet ferret literature routinely describes the ferret as having been domesticated for so long that domestic ferrets are now dependent on people to survive, that they have no hunting skills left, and that they can not survive in the wild. A common claim is that an escaped ferret will die within three days. Probably, most escaped or abandoned ferrets either are re-caught or will die from dehydration if there is not a water supply available, or starvation if they can't find food right away. "...the ferret, being by nature an obligate carnivore, has an extremely short digestive tract, and requires meals as often as every four to six hours." In ferrets, the food transit time is just a few hours. While searching for food and water in unfamiliar settings, ferrets also run the risk of becoming prey of other predators. Any animal that has been confined all of its life and then is abruptly thrust into unfamiliar outdoors surroundings would have little chance of surviving. However, ferrets can and do survive in the wild in various places around the world and under a variety of conditions (World Distribution). The individuals that have a good chance of surviving are those that soon detect the odor of animals they had previously fed upon. These are the ferrets that are experienced in hunting rabbits and rodents, that had prior experience killing animals, such as field, house mice, and "feeder" mice in households , or that are soon able to scavenge or find cat food or other familiar-smelling pet food left outside. "Feeder mice" and feeder rats are rodents that are commercially sold as frozen or live animal food or that pet owners breed and raise themselves as live or freshly killed food for their pet snakes or other carnivores. Some labs and pet ferret owners feed live mice to their ferrets as a nutritious supplement or alternative to commercial ferret food. In 1995 in Oneida County, New York, an escaped pet ferret was gone approximately two weeks. After the owners got it back, it was found to have been exposed to rabies. In southeast Alaska, domestic ferrets in good condition were trapped in the wild far from human habitation during winters in the years following legalization of ferrets as pets in that state. "Released from captivity, the ferret (if it survives) quickly reverts, and in a generation or two, is absorbed into the wild population." - Wellstead (1981) Many wild populations of domestic ferrets in the world resulted from the escape of ferrets. Escaped fur animals at times have contributed to local populations of ferrets in the wild, and have even threatened locally rare wildlife. Some ferret literature states that an intact female will almost certainly die if not bred, but other sources indicate rates of mortality of 20-50%. Bissonnette, T. H. (1950), wrote, "The old superstition, that if a female ferret is not mated and allowed to become pregnant she will die as a result, is not true. Females may be kept over two years at least without mating and live a healthy life properly fed and kept free from dirt and infection.” ---I don't research this enough but if most domestic ferrets are like my Mufasah, I fear for them being able to survive in the wild once their cozy hammock and blankets are gone... Maybe if I taught him to hunt rabbits he could really cause some damage for native critters. |
Originally Posted by jish1969
(Post 12539930)
Shimagnolo is right, ferrets are illegal in more than a few states due to the fact that they are an adaptable species and can become quite invasive when established. Not saying your pet is going to escape and procreate madly but its probably not a good idea at all to take him along IMO...
Maybe it can hybidize with a weasel? Or a cat? Dunno. Like I said, I'm no expert. |
In doing some reading I found that ferrets have apparently been domesticated for ~2500 years.
Also an interesting bit of trivia I learned about the movie "The Big Lebowski": When the nihilists bring the ferret into the bathroom and he says "Nice marmot", it is a joke about ferrets being illegal in CA. |
This has to be one of the funniest threads I have seen in a long time.
Getting back to the original OP post... I can only imagine that you are new to extended bicycle touring. Otherwise, you would know the answer to your question. So much can happen on a long tour. Heck, most people start out with HUMAN companions and get separated from them before the trip is over. Have a look at someone who is weeks into a tour. Every piece of his equipment looks beat up. Your ferret will take the same abuse. What are you going to do with the poor creature, put him in a tiny cage or in your pocket while you are in the saddle for three or four hours at a crack? God almighty. if PETA or the Humane Society finds out what you are doing, they will roast you on a stick and become meat eaters just for the occasion. I would suggest that if you really do love your ferret, leave it in the care of a beautiful loving girlfriend - preferably a nursing student or maybe a kindergarten teacher. You know, someone who will love your ferret and maybe you too when you get back. Finally, I have to ask... what does the ferret say about all this? |
Waited overnite one time to buy concert tickets, the next morning I saw a local guy walking around with his family & the cuddly ferret scurrying 'round his neck. Dunno how they react to high heat but that time it was fairly warm. Lately I've seen some bikers with dogs in trailers or rear carriers. I guess if the critter is comfortable with the situation it would work.
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Originally Posted by mike
(Post 12547977)
This has to be one of the funniest threads I have seen in a long time.
Getting back to the original OP post... I can only imagine that you are new to extended bicycle touring. Otherwise, you would know the answer to your question. So much can happen on a long tour. Heck, most people start out with HUMAN companions and get separated from them before the trip is over. Have a look at someone who is weeks into a tour. Every piece of his equipment looks beat up. Your ferret will take the same abuse. What are you going to do with the poor creature, put him in a tiny cage or in your pocket while you are in the saddle for three or four hours at a crack? God almighty. if PETA or the Humane Society finds out what you are doing, they will roast you on a stick and become meat eaters just for the occasion. I would suggest that if you really do love your ferret, leave it in the care of a beautiful loving girlfriend - preferably a nursing student or maybe a kindergarten teacher. You know, someone who will love your ferret and maybe you too when you get back. Finally, I have to ask... what does the ferret say about all this? (stepping off of soap box) |
I wouldn't bring something that is banned in several states. In my state, you could get nailed with a $500,000 fine and 3 years in jail if you try bringing a snake etc.
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Originally Posted by openmindedgent
(Post 12537269)
Okay wow, so much to process. I have come to my senses and decided that Mufasah is not meant for the long haul.
I would much rather leave him safe at home than lose a really wonderful companion due to my impulsive behavior. He can do small trips and if there is a car involved might be able to visit far off lands. "If that 80F figure is anywhere near accurate I'd say forget the idea of taking a ferret on a tour of the south in summer. " -YEA! I totally agree with you here. I mentioned the a/c because I know that is the only way he could survive the trip.
Originally Posted by openmindedgent
(Post 12537269)
I guess I just hate the idea of touring alone again.
Good luck with whatever you decide. |
Just when you think you've seen it all.......along comes someone that wants to tour on a bike with a ferret and is considering adding an air conditioner to his load. I'd suggest adding a girl friend to tour with so you won't be alone, but you may have already bid yourself out of that option with the AC'd ferret thoughts.
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Has the OP considered a hamster?
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