For a while now ive been looking for a relativly cheap mtb bike (300-400) to commute on . I was thinking maybe a trek 3900 or specialized hardrock and then throwing some slicks and fenders on. My goal is too enventually take this bike on some tours. After looking around, I stumbeled upon the Kona Smoke http://www.konaworld.com/2k4bikes/2k.../2k5_smoke.cfm

The bike is 350, comes with fenders 1.5 slicks and is a Cromoly Butted Frame, with a rigid fork. My question to you guys is, do you think this bike will hold up for what I wanna do with it (The touring part mainly), and do u think this is a practical solution, or am I just kidding myself?

(I currently us an Allez triple for road riding, So im not new to biking. While I love the like for road riding, I wouldent trust the wheels or frame for long tours)

It is built up with low-end components, and my experience is that low-end stuff breaks down more often. You don't need the very best, but somewhere in the middle like Deore or LX. Low-end Formula hubs and cheap Alex rims are probably not the most durable combo.

The frame might be tough enough, but I can't tell if it has braze-ons for attaching front and rear racks along with the fenders.

My impression is that you'd be getting a bike equal to the cheap mtb you already have. Might be better to save up for the touring bikes from REI, Bianchi, Fuji, etc.

I tour once or twice a year here in Hawaii. My rides are not too ambitious, between 3 and 5 days on the road. I have not yet invested in a high end touring bike. I used an ancient Team Fuji (re-geared for touring) for years, then a Giant MB (which was stolen), and most recently a very inexpensive Trek (model 3500) . All have served me well. On my last tour I climbed to the summit of Haleakala, a 10,000 foot climb, on my Trek 3500. It handled a full touring load fine, was very comfortable, and performed great.

Someday I may purchase a true touring bike, but until then I won’t hesitate to tour on my Trek.

Tom

Any thoughts on the new Kona Sutra "touring" bike, as well?