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Old 07-24-11, 09:28 AM
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Shims of Ortlieb panniers

They seem a bit easy to lose. So, have any of you guys lost any? Do you stick them on?
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Old 07-24-11, 10:03 AM
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You mean lose the alternate ones not installed in the hooks?
you could put them in the inside pockets .... 'put in's' ...
against the stiffener panel, or tape them there..

I find once installed they stay put , in their place..

You also have the retro option of using the prior type 1 hook in 10mm diameter only,
which I did with my Tubus rack fitted Bike.. no insert..

bought an extra set of hooks, I have an older bag also,
It got one of the newer hooks
and I use it on my bike friday front rack, made of a much smaller diameter.. steel ..
even the 8mm inserts are a bit loose..

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Old 07-24-11, 10:09 AM
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I was talking about what is needed inside the hooks to fit them onto tubus racks. They seem lose and prone to falling off?
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Old 07-24-11, 10:16 AM
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NO, They don't seem so to me, and certainly not on the road
when the clasp part of the hook is closed.

Its a challenge, I have found, to pry them out, to change them..
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Make sure they really are centered when putting them in.
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Some folks actually use a third complete top fastener, which serves as a spare in case of failure.

If your hooks take 8mm/10mm interchangeable inserts, and you have no plans to mount to an 8mm rack, you could krazy-glue the insert in place to prevent loss.

Tubus racks are made from 10mm OD steel tubing. Some of the "cheap" racks are made from 8mm OD Al rod, some are 10mm (not tubing, but solid extruded rod).
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Old 07-24-11, 05:47 PM
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I have read that some people tie them on with a bit of fishing nylon to stop them falling out. I have not had to do this myself but do keep an eye on them to prevent loss if they fall off taking the panniers off.
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Old 07-24-11, 07:44 PM
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Just use tape on the rack and forget the shims
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Old 07-25-11, 01:47 PM
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I have a set of Ortlieb Backroller Classics ... but I wish I knew what you were talking about!

What are these shims?
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What are these shims?
hook inserts, newer bags include 2, to snap into the 14mm hook
insert A) for 10~ 11mm rack, and B) for 8mm, or smaller.

Older ones just for 10mm tube racks.
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Old 07-26-11, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jwbnyc View Post
Just use tape on the rack and forget the shims
+1

I use rubber tubing slit lengthwise attached to the rack with zip ties. Nice and quiet too.......
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Old 07-26-11, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
NO, They don't seem so to me, and certainly not on the road
when the clasp part of the hook is closed.

Its a challenge, I have found, to pry them out, to change them..
+1. I actually had a difficult tiome getting a few on them in they fit so tightly. I can definitely see having to pry them out.

OP: Make they are centered and snap in completely.
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Old 07-26-11, 08:48 AM
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"Shims of Ortlieb". Coming soon to SyFy!!
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Thanks guys. Mine seem a bit lose and it 'seems' it would be possible to fall off when off the bike.

Decided to not worry, and if I do lose them, I'll use the rubber tubing on the rack solution.
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Old 07-26-11, 10:21 PM
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I might try that instead. Thanks.

Originally Posted by KLW2 View Post
+1

I use rubber tubing slit lengthwise attached to the rack with zip ties. Nice and quiet too.......
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Old 08-08-11, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
+1. I actually had a difficult tiome getting a few on them in they fit so tightly. I can definitely see having to pry them out.

OP: Make they are centered and snap in completely.
agreed. i use one of my rear back rollers as a daily workpack - carrying my laptop and cables and my work documents to work... and hasn't ever come loose in more than a year... that's WITHOUT any glue nor fishing line. perhaps i'm not thrashing my unit enough... they can rattle in place, but as i have FOUR of the rail "hooks" on the rear pannier, even if one falls off, i'm not worse off...

just install and ensure you can FEEL the "click" when the shim falls into the slot. make sure it's inserted in the CORRECT direction first, of course!
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Old 08-08-11, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KLW2 View Post
+1

I use rubber tubing slit lengthwise attached to the rack with zip ties. Nice and quiet too.......
yes i seen a video on utube on that exact thing (ortlieb panniers)
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Old 08-08-11, 05:26 PM
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I have heard of people using Shoe Goo to secure them. That way you can still get them back out if needed. Never tried it myself.
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