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skilsaw 08-03-11 04:53 PM

Ever paid a bribe to cross a border?
 
Years ago I was in Brazil and my 90 day visa was due to expire soon.
The family that had befriended me said "You must go see our cousins in Londrina. They can help you."
So I went to Londrina. The cousins drove me to the border with Paraguay. There I was told to "Stay in the car, say nothing, and give me your passport." They went in to the guardhouse with my passport and came out in 5 minutes with it stamped for another 90 days.

I've always suspected that they bribed the border guard.
Have you?

Keith99 08-03-11 05:32 PM

A few decades ago it was standard practice to bribe border guards in Mexico, though honestly it was more like a tip, than a bribe. A bit of money to get you through faster, not a lot of money to get you through with contaband.

Roughstuff 08-03-11 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by skilsaw (Post 13030366)
Years ago I was in Brazil and my 90 day visa was due to expire soon.
The family that had befriended me said "You must go see our cousins in Londrina. They can help you."
So I went to Londrina. The cousins drove me to the border with Paraguay. There I was told to "Stay in the car, say nothing, and give me your passport." They went in to the guardhouse with my passport and came out in 5 minutes with it stamped for another 90 days.

I've always suspected that they bribed the border guard.
Have you?

The post above is correct. A few decades ago, especially in Central America, bribes were just the nature of the beast. But on my world tour from 1998-2000 I had no bribery at any border in this region. The crossings can be intimidating and sometimes frightening because there are so many officials, offices, and people swarming around. It IS BEST to keep your bike with you as much as possible; but that is probably true anywhere.

I did run into Police corruption in Vietnam. I would be staying in a cheap room or local 'hotel' when they would show up and make you go to some expensive place; I am sure they took a cut of the rent. Once or twice they tried to take some of my equipment but I usually laughed my way out of it or just rode off. Such things are supposed to be addressed by diplomats thru state channels but the Spineless US State department rarely lifts a finger, even in cases where losses are substantial.

roughstuff

blaise_f 08-04-11 08:49 PM

Cross at night, while they sleep, like Joff Summerfield ^_^.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-farthing.html

Lou Skannon 08-04-11 10:34 PM

Worst border that I ever crossed was West Germany into East Germany. Those DDR border guards and their AK47s, the filthly dirty guard dogs, the whole atmosphere of the place made it so scary. But you didn't need to bribe anyone. Thankfully, all gone now.

Northwestrider 08-05-11 12:06 AM

No, and I've crossed quite a few. Having said that, I have no moral problem with it. I just believe the risks are too great. OTOH if asked to provide a fee from a border guard, I'd oblige, but I'd never offer any coin to speed up or allow the crossing. I guess thats to dividing line for me. If asked,I'd likely fork it over, but I'd never initiate the process. Just too much risk.

SparkyGA 08-08-11 11:16 AM

The closest I've seen to a bribe is the 'Overtime' fee they charge in Laos. It seems like it is more often than not in 'overtime' that in 'regular' time. It's just some stupid government tax to make more money off of you.

Haven't really come across any problems with border crossings in my current 1 year travels. I've tried to bribe a few security people though with no luck though....


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