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Old 10-10-11, 05:32 AM
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40 hole Formula high-flange touring hubs, any good?

Iíve been offered a set of touring bike wheels that feature 40 hole, high flange touring hubs made by Formula. The rear hub is 135mm wide and will take a 9 or 10 speed Shimano cassette.

Iím a 200+ lbs. guy who is looking for a strong wheel-set for a trekking and touring.

Iíve had two sets of Formula hubs and I consider the quality to be way below Shimano.
Are these hubs as good as a Shimano Deore LX? I canít find any information on them anywhere.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv View Post
I’ve been offered a set of touring bike wheels that feature 40 hole, high flange touring hubs made by Formula. The rear hub is 135mm wide and will take a 9 or 10 speed Shimano cassette.

I’m a 200+ lbs. guy who is looking for a strong wheel-set for a trekking and touring.

I’ve had two sets of Formula hubs and I consider the quality to be way below Shimano.
Are these hubs as good as a Shimano Deore LX? I can’t find any information on them anywhere.
If I have doubts about a part's durability I won't buy it. On the plus side, high flange hubs are nice for building a wheel with more than 36 spokes as there is more metal between the spoke holes. If the wheelset is inexpensive enough they maybe, at the least, a good spare wheelset.

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The alternative is a 36 spoke Mavic a319/Shimano Deore LX wheelset for less money.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv View Post
The alternative is a 36 spoke Mavic a319/Shimano Deore LX wheelset for less money.
I don't know anything about the Formula wheel in question (spokes,rim?) but if your previous experience says they're lower quality I'd go for the Deore/319 wheels. The Handspun Deore/309 rear wheel I've got is great. I wish someone would do a test jig for wheels simulating loads and impacts then run it 24/7 to see what fails. Unless you need a complete set of wheels just focus on getting a good rear wheel. The requirements for front wheels are a lot less.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv View Post
The alternative is a 36 spoke Mavic a319/Shimano Deore LX wheelset for less money.
I haven't used the A319 rims, but from my experiance with Mavic and Deore hubs, I'd personally choose this option.

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I used Phil Wood 48 spoke, and built them up 5 cross, rear.
was fine for a decade of loaded touring. 40 spoke front 4 cross..

sold them still true and serviceable. when I built another set..
[next set, not mentioned since hub/rim not made any more]

you can modify Shimano Tandem hubs to get a 40 or 48 spoke hub ,
that is Shimano quality.

It's a case of changing the axle and the left side spacers, to go from 145 to 135.
(or130)..

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Formula hubs are subpar in my book and I wouldn't trust them on a longish tourer. 40 spokes would be nice but I am about 240, have always used 36, and seldom break a spoke. Go with LX and you will be happier for sure.
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That's a solid, no nonsense wheel.

Originally Posted by Barrettscv View Post
The alternative is a 36 spoke Mavic a319/Shimano Deore LX wheelset for less money.
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I just got a set of formula touring hubs and velocity deep v sealed cartridge bearings They are quiet and I am 300lbs loaded so far so good the finish(appearance) is similar to shimano 333 or 1st generation duraace high flange...
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I went ahead and purchased the wheelset. The build includes Velocity Dyad rims. They look good, but the spoke tension is poor. I'll have a wheelbuilder go over them soon. I'll use these locally this winter before using them for any distance next spring.
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Old 11-19-15, 07:58 AM
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@Barrettscv Thread revival. Any chance you (or anyone else) can comment on whether or not these hubs worked out (after having ridden them for some time)? I just purchased a wheelset, maybe from the same seller (Storm Mountain Cyclery, got them on eBay): Dyad rims with 40 spokes and formula high-flange touring hubs. I was just looking for something that balanced durability with cost. I got them for what feels like a pretty good deal.
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can't say for definite, but they seem to be clones of joytek,
novatek, quando, assess, etc......made in taiwan, probably
all in the same factory with different labels slapped on.

if so, then the bodies and flanges are fine. freehub can
take quite a bit of abuse. but the bearings may need
replacing.

when purchased here in chinaland, they come with domestic
chinese crap bearings good for only a few thousand km
lightly loaded. replacement with real taiwan sealed bearing
cartridges last mucho longero.
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Hi,

The wheelset has been very strong and performs well. I purchased a second set, one set for trails, another for pavement.
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formula seems to go in build lists to cut costs vs. using shimano.. good luck.
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Formula hubs were (and maybe still are being) used by Velocity to build their complete wheelsets. I have a pair of lightly used Dyad wheels like that, and I suspect that the original wheels that Barrett has were bought like that.

The only significant issue I have seen with Formula hubs was on Machka's Marinoni, and in particular the freehub. That wheel now runs an Ultegra hub.
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Thank you all for your help! The wheels arrived yesterday (and very timely shipping for the record!) and I just unpacked them today. They certainly are a nice looking wheelset, though that's hardly what's in question. Glad to hear folks have had success with them. I will give them a run and we shall see. Since I was able to pick up the full wheelset, brand new, for $130 shipped, and it appears that that is less than the cost of two rims (not sure how this all works out for the seller unless he/she is purchasing these as ridiculous cost), my expectations weren't huge to begin with but I'm certainly hoping I managed to get a lot of value for my money. Appreciate all the input!
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