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Old 11-15-11, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by staehpj1 View Post
If you live near one end of the trip, consider flying to the far end and riding toward home. This has the advantage of riding toward your loved ones and not away from them and also opens the possibility of them meeting you at the end. I know that having family and friends throw us a cookout in Yorktown was a great note to conclude the trip on.
This is good advice.

I've never done a tour while married. On my first tour I had a girlfriend, but we rode together. I've done several other tours while unattached, so there were no relationship issues. The last tour I did solo, while my girlfriend stayed home, however. It started not far from home so she was able to meet me after the first week, but after that I was riding further and further from home, which didn't appeal to me psychologically. If I had been really needing a break from her it would have been different, but she's the best woman on this entire planet (no offense, ladies), and I missed her. I ended up cutting the tour short because of persistent, repetitive, nasty weather, but I can't honestly say missing her didn't also play a role in that decision. If I had started at the other end of the tour and rode toward home, I think it would have completely changed my attitude.
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Old 11-15-11, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by contango View Post
Cycling the North Sea? That would be impressive. How hard to you have to pump your tyres to pull that off?
It'll tell you on your tyre.

http://www.sustrans.org.uk/what-we-d...ea-cycle-route
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Old 11-15-11, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by contango View Post
Cycling the North Sea? That would be impressive. How hard to you have to pump your tyres to pull that off?
The North Sea Route? Surely you've heard of it ... you're located quite close to it!

http://www.northsea-cycle.com/
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Old 11-15-11, 03:25 PM
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the witt of the irish nice one caretaker.lol
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Old 11-15-11, 03:34 PM
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North sea, separates the west coast of Netherlands and the east coast of England
William of Orange had to go to Norman France in 1066 , rather than just walk, because of it.
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Old 11-15-11, 04:16 PM
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+1 on the suggestion to plan some time mid-trip with your wife. 1 mile off the TransAm, I'm guessing you'll take a rest day or two part-way through the trip.

I'm not sure about the "ride home" advice. Maybe so, maybe not. I'd suggest you plan on her flying or driving to meet you at the end of the trip.

+1 more on promise less communication than you can deliver. That may mean telling her that, after phone calls every night for the last two weeks, you expect to be out of cell coverage the next three days. A phone call at lunch on the second day will then be very welcome!

I think a lot of the marriage effect will depend on your wife. Will she spend three months worrying about you? If so, you may want/need to plan a 1-2 more meet in the middle weekends. If you can take a few days off, try to have her meet you someplace very different, like the Tetons or Yellowstone if she's never been there and tour the area.

I'd be planning and training for a May departure starting in a month or two. For two years out, you'll have a lot of time to read, plan, and accumulate. It might be worth trying a few short tours or S24O's between now and then to give you a feel for load, speed, and distance.
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Old 11-15-11, 05:27 PM
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Nice comeback


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The North Sea Route? Surely you've heard of it ... you're located quite close to it!

http://www.northsea-cycle.com/
I hadn't actually heard of it, but do live surprisingly close to it to have never heard of it. 6000km is a fair distance to cover, 3500-4000 miles at maybe 60 miles per day on average makes... 65-odd days. That's a good length tour!
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Old 11-15-11, 05:56 PM
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Here's my two cents, keep the change....

Sounds like she supports it, but I would ask her the question that you posed to us. I would say, 'hey thanks for the money but honey I'm concerned about spending so much time apart. Are we going to be OK?' ...or whatever it is you are concerned about being gone that long.
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Old 11-15-11, 08:27 PM
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I hadn't actually heard of it, but do live surprisingly close to it to have never heard of it. 6000km is a fair distance to cover, 3500-4000 miles at maybe 60 miles per day on average makes... 65-odd days. That's a good length tour!


I'm thinking more along the lines of 6000 km @ 50 km/day = 120 days (4 months). That would be about as fast as I'd want to do it, and would likely want to have a 2-4 week buffer in case it took longer. So I'd want to have 4.5 - 5 months to do it.
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Old 11-15-11, 10:27 PM
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Here's my input. My first tour was this summer.
A few pertinent details:
-Married 31 years
-Wife does not ride
-Toured with 2 women half my age (close family friends)
-We had never been apart for more than one week before this trip.

From my perspective (and i think my wife would agree), it was good for us. It mean't a lot to me that she would agree to the whole deal and be a good sport about it-even to the point of picking up a few extra work shifts to help cover some of the income loss.

I've never been one to get homesick but this trip made me realize how blessed I am. Here is a link to some of my on the road blubberings about the whole deal. http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/p...id=241856&v=6y
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Old 11-16-11, 01:03 AM
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The intangible something or others have been bubbling along with this thread! Entertaining, really....
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Old 11-16-11, 01:29 PM
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Old 11-16-11, 02:39 PM
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Old 11-19-11, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
North sea, separates the west coast of Netherlands and the east coast of England
William of Orange had to go to Norman France in 1066 , rather than just walk, because of it.
I think we're talking William the Conqueror, here. Bit earlier than William of Orange.
Billy Conqueror 1, Harold 0
The Normans invaded Britain and had the element of surprise because of the bicycles.
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Old 11-19-11, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Caretaker View Post
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I'm thinking more along the lines of 6000 km @ 50 km/day = 120 days (4 months). That would be about as fast as I'd want to do it, and would likely want to have a 2-4 week buffer in case it took longer. So I'd want to have 4.5 - 5 months to do it.
50k per day seems slow to me, but then I've never done a tour on anything like that kind of scale so it could be after a few days of 60 miles per day I'd be a blubbering wreck who refused to go anywhere near his bike for a week. Is 30 miles a day a realistic estimate based on what's comfortable, or based on figuring that if you're going to take that much time to ride a huge loop you'd rather take a little more time and see the sights?
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Old 11-19-11, 05:52 PM
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50k per day seems slow to me, but then I've never done a tour on anything like that kind of scale so it could be after a few days of 60 miles per day I'd be a blubbering wreck who refused to go anywhere near his bike for a week. Is 30 miles a day a realistic estimate based on what's comfortable, or based on figuring that if you're going to take that much time to ride a huge loop you'd rather take a little more time and see the sights?
When I'm on a tour, I like to ride for 3 or 4 days, and then take a day off, and repeat. So if I'm planning to ride for 120 days, as in the calculation 6000 km @ 50 km/day = 120 days, I do not intend to ride 50 km every single day for 120 days. I will instead, ride about 65 km a day for 4 days so that I can take the 5th day off. Or something like that.

Also, when I first started touring, I was under the mistaken impression that I had to ride a minimum of 100 km a day (on the days when I rode). But I discovered very quickly on a 3-month tour of Australia I did in 2004, that 80 km/day was a whole lot more realistic, and that I am happier with even a bit less than that.

Planning for a shorter daily distance removes a lot of stress from a tour. I don't feel like I have to put in long, long days in order to reach my destination in time (whether that's a place to stay for the night, or my flight home at the end, or whatever). Riding shorter distances gives me the opportunity to see the sights along the way and at my nightly destination. And including shorter distances in the planning means that if a wicked storm moves in for a day, I can take the day off, and it's not a big deal to catch up to the schedule again.
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That makes sense, certainly good to have a bit of slack in case you lose some time unexpectedly.
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