Yet another gearing question
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Yet another gearing question
I have almost decided on the gearing for my touring bike. The rear is a Sun Lite seven speed, freewheel with 14-34 cogs. Wheels are 26 inch mountain bike. I cannot "upgrade" to a 8/9/10 or 11 speed rear.
I am thinking for the riding I do and plan on, including a cross country ride pulling a trailer, I should use chain rings of 38 (or 36)/32/22.
I am not racing, I do not use the 48 tooth big ring I have now, 90% of my riding is in the middle 38 tooth ring, the rest in the 28 tooth granny (Bio Pace rings). I know I will have to change to a compact crank in order to get the ring sizes I want; most of the sizes I want are not made in a 5 bolt pattern anymore.
Will the 38/32/22 rings give me a useable range of gears for touring? I expect the trailer to have close to 100 pounds in it, plus a little in the panniers.
I am thinking for the riding I do and plan on, including a cross country ride pulling a trailer, I should use chain rings of 38 (or 36)/32/22.
I am not racing, I do not use the 48 tooth big ring I have now, 90% of my riding is in the middle 38 tooth ring, the rest in the 28 tooth granny (Bio Pace rings). I know I will have to change to a compact crank in order to get the ring sizes I want; most of the sizes I want are not made in a 5 bolt pattern anymore.
Will the 38/32/22 rings give me a useable range of gears for touring? I expect the trailer to have close to 100 pounds in it, plus a little in the panniers.
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It sounds like a good range of gears to me. My temptation would be to use a slightly larger big chainring -- maybe a 42 instead of a 38 -- but gearing is personal. Ultimately, what works for someone else won't be ideal for you. That your lowest gears are as low as they are is a good thing in my opinion. I have a similar gear set up myself -- my low and middle range are almost the same as what you are proposing, my high end is somewhat higher -- and it works great for me.
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As acantor said, I would also be tempted to have a slightly larger biggest chainring. I've got a 44/34/24 chainring setup, and I understand what you mean about spending most time in the middle ring - but sometimes it's nice to have the longer top-end ratios for pedalling along slowly on a descent or with a tailwind (they DO happen sometimes). Or when I'm not loaded (the bike, that is!) after setting up camp and just heading to the pub for dinner or something.
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Sheldon's gear chart shows you going about 16 mph @80 rpm in high with the 38, flats on a smooth road and a good day. With any decent tailwind, unless you're a true spinner, means you're likely to run out. Might want to bump the top ring up to 42 to take better advantage of those 'gift from God' days.
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I put thousands of miles on a 14-34 ,6 or 7 speed 126 axle spread..
110/74 crank set 50 (95"high, 700c wheel) 40 or 38t , & 24t ganny cog.
110/74 crank set 50 (95"high, 700c wheel) 40 or 38t , & 24t ganny cog.
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The 38 is a very low especially when used with a 14 tooth freewheel. Why not go with a 44? You probably won't even have to change the crank. Bikeman (and others) carry lots of rings in lots of different bolt circles.
On a side note: What possible reason do you have for carrying 100 pounds in a trailer and then adding more in panniers? Trim down your load! I pack heavy and even I don't lug around 100 lbs of stuff.
On a side note: What possible reason do you have for carrying 100 pounds in a trailer and then adding more in panniers? Trim down your load! I pack heavy and even I don't lug around 100 lbs of stuff.
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^^ didn't mean you cyccommute, meant OP's 100+ lbs load.
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The 38 is a very low especially when used with a 14 tooth freewheel. Why not go with a 44? You probably won't even have to change the crank. Bikeman (and others) carry lots of rings in lots of different bolt circles.
On a side note: What possible reason do you have for carrying 100 pounds in a trailer and then adding more in panniers? Trim down your load! I pack heavy and even I don't lug around 100 lbs of stuff.
On a side note: What possible reason do you have for carrying 100 pounds in a trailer and then adding more in panniers? Trim down your load! I pack heavy and even I don't lug around 100 lbs of stuff.
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