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Old 04-08-12, 04:51 PM
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Upgrading Cannondale CAAD8 6 to a Tank

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About two years ago I purchased a Cannondale CAAD8 6 for commuting. Here in Arkansas, it's a perfect get-around-towner. However, in a year's time, I will be moving to the Big Island of Hawaii for a few years of Bike Bumbing. Until then, I will need to begin upgrading the stock parts.

To give an idea of B.I. Hawaii's climate: corrosive, salt-water environment; grit/sand; high humidity/rain; and, (and!) fields of rubber-shredding black lava. So, my goal is to turn this neat little bike into the two-wheeled equivalent of an M1A1 Abrams.

So far, I've settled on Specialized Armadillo Tires. If, and when, I chance the cheese-grater back roads of Miloli'i, I believe Armadillos'll do me well.

But, I'm at a loss as to the upgrade kit and rims. I'd need my parts to be coated to resist the salt and humidity, and tough enough to withstand less-than-smooth lanes of travel. (I just choked up, thinking about my cables... they'll rust out in months.)

I'm willing to spend around 1,500 on the kit, and probably 1,100 on rims. Any ideas? (P.S. Weight be darned: I'll sacrifice lightness for durability. And, what's the best lube-and-lift for chains and gears in a hot, muggy, salty, and gritty location?)

I'm grateful for your expertise, y'all. Safe travels.
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Old 04-08-12, 05:51 PM
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Why not leave your Cannondale the way it is, put it in storage, and spend the $2600 on a ready built M1A1, such as a cyclocross bike.
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Originally Posted by Akendebur View Post
I will be moving to the Big Island of Hawaii for a few years of Bike Bumbing.

So, my goal is to turn this neat little bike into the two-wheeled equivalent of an M1A1 Abrams.
I'd need my parts to be coated to resist the salt and humidity, and tough enough to withstand less-than-smooth lanes of travel. (I just choked up, thinking about my cables... they'll rust out in months.)

I'm willing to spend around 1,500 on the kit, and probably 1,100 on rims.
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it's a road bike. Cables are probably stainless steel in lined housing so they won't rust. WTH you're doing with $1100 rims I cannot imagine. If you're concerned about rough road riding why the heck are you considering a road bike that probably can't take larger than 25mm tires?

If you want a tank bike for $1500 get a tank bike.

http://www.bikeshophawaii.com/kona_2010_ASPHALT_1.html

Looks like the Kona World fits the description

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Old 04-08-12, 06:57 PM
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I had no idea such a sport existed... What else is out there?
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Old 04-08-12, 07:00 PM
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Be gentle, boyos, I'm not asking these questions to incite anger.
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Old 04-08-12, 07:19 PM
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peace Akendebur, when you say tank, I think tank. All aluminum rims can corrode in salt water mist atmosphere if not ridden. You describe turning a road bike into a tank for rubber shredding black lava when there are bikes already made for that description. No anger. Just excited for your adventure. I took a '82 Specialized Sequoia with 32mm tires up Haleakala and through dirt roads of Maui. So what kind of tank are you thinking of?
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Ah, indeed, LeeG, my apologies. My partner and I will be living off the grid for a while, teaching something marvelous. We'll have a Jeep at our disposal, but wish for leg-power for fun and exploration. I'm sure we'll be using the highways, quite a bit, but have a chance at some rather interesting back-roads. I really enjoy the feel of a road-bike, but am concerned about the life of it's parts in such a salty place. I would like the thinness of the tires I have, just with more strength than they possess. I've already popped three spokes on sidewalks, the last 3 months, and wish to avoid such problems on the island. Are there other, viable options for rims than aluminum? Will hitting potholes distort even the most stout road-bike rim? I'm quite novice at all this, so I don't know what questions to ask. What would you do, to maintain the option of speed on blacktop, without passing up the chance to explore that road with the sign, "Last Native Fishing Village in Hawaii"?

As for your trip in Haleakala, did it feel as though you were awake in a vivid dream?
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I don't think there are a lot of specifically corrosion-resistant components out there. Keep the bike clean and you'll be fine.

If you're repeatedly breaking spokes, that wheel is already toast and you need to rebuild it. The rims are probably fine, but once you lose a couple of spokes then all of the remaining spokes are weak, and you'll keep breaking spokes.

I recommend getting to Hawaii first, then talk to a shop about what you need, then decide how to spend your money. $1500 will get you a very nice cross bike or MTB, which will almost certainly work out better than trying to turn a road bike into something it isn't.
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Old 04-08-12, 08:08 PM
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Interesting... Alright, I'll check these cross bikes out. Are they capable of highway speed, when necessary?
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Old 04-08-12, 08:09 PM
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Lol, I said "Thank you" in my head, but didn't type it. Thank you, all.
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Alright, y'all, the cyclo's are getting me excited. Dropping 3 grand would certainly get me something really tasty. Honestly, I hadn't heard of such a bike, but, the folks that ride them seem to be my sort of folks. Tasty bikes, man... Keep the suggestions coming, as I'm quite curious what else is out there I've never suspected. Be well!
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am concerned about the life of it's parts in such a salty place.
I would like the thinness of the tires I have
Are there other, viable options for rims than aluminum?
Will hitting potholes distort even the most stout road-bike rim?
What would you do, to maintain the option of speed on blacktop, without passing up the chance to explore that road with the sign, "Last Native Fishing Village in Hawaii"?

As for your trip in Haleakala, did it feel as though you were awake in a vivid dream?
1. chromed steel parts can rust heavily in salty environment. Spray with T9 Boeshield occasionally. Any bike, tank or not, can corrode if left unused in sea air. Solution, don't leave in sea air, put inside at night. My suggestion for the IGH 3spd was for a bike left outside so you could simply put heavy oil on the chain and not worry. Most bikes turning into crud near marine environments are ones you see unridden and the chain has rusted solid.

2. skinny road tires are for paved roads, if you're a light person(<150lbs) you can ride on dirt roads with skinny road tires but they have limits. If you want to ride rough roads with skinny tires and you weigh >175lbs you might as well get the heaviest rim and tire combo and enjoy that ride on smooth roads.

3.aluminum is a fine material for rims. Your problem is your existing wheel, replace it with something more stout as it wasn't up to the abuse you put into it.

4. don't hit potholes, learn to hop over them. If you can't do that get fatter tires and go slower so as to avoid potholes.

5. I would get the fattest tire appropriate for my weight and intended surfaces. If I was 150lbs I'd get 32mm tires for street and occasional rough roads. If I was 200lbs I'd get 35-40mm for street and rough.

6. it was real, this forum is a dream.
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Our son's cyclocross bike in action. Most CX racers use 32mm tires. CX bikes are pretty rugged. I've used mine for touring, club rides, and hauling groceries. They are good all around bikes.

Be careful on he hills



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LeeG - Ok, I'm starting to get the feel of what you're saying. Just need to change my image of how I view this.

Doug64 - Right on! So, would you consider it a fitting survival bike? Btw, that bottom picture looks like he just rode through a field of drying Nutella. Why careful down hills? Do they fly, or are they sensitive/topheavy?
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Just need to change my image of how I view this.
how much do you weigh and do you intend on riding on dirt roads or trails as well as smooth pavement?
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180, and yes, both. (Maybe even more so on the trail side, now that I'm seeing how amazing these bikes are... Like a dog through the sage brush)
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Old 04-09-12, 12:15 AM
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no brainer, get a Cross-Check and buy another set of tires and tubes. 28-32mm road tires and 38-47cm off road tires. There are many cyclo-cross bikes that will do dual duty but the CC can carry wider tires than most. Leave the Cannondale behind if you're willing to spend upwards of $1500.
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You're a persuasive guide, LeeG. Indeed, I like the stories and reviews on the Cross Check. The ability to attach panniers is a plus... Would you suggest riding it stock, or buying the frame and building it up? Good lord, I need sleep. We'll pick this up tomorrow evening, yeah? I'm going to have fun dreams.

In parting, here's a picture of "Ridiculously Photogenic Guy":
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