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Old 06-18-12, 10:51 AM
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MSR Hubba Hubba w/ gear shed

I've mentioned this before and gotten some great advice from everyone on it, but I"m taking my first cross country tour next year. I'm going self-contained, just me and my buddy, and I'm trying to get all my gear figured out.

That being said, I'm starting to look at tents and the Hubba Hubba in the ACA catalog looks pretty good, but I wanted to see what some other people think. I was thinking of getting it and the gear shed so we would have some extra room in the tent and still be able to keep some gear dry during rainy nights.

Any advice? Is it a good one? Is the gear shed a good idea? What kind of wind does it hold up for? Anything you've got on it would be great and if you recommend something else let me know.

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is this one tent for the two of you or just yourself? Looks like a great set-up if one was living in one place for week long stretches. I'd be more inclined to hang a catenary cut tarp over the tent.

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I have an older model, but I don't believe the size has changed. You say "we would have some extra room." If you are going to be sharing this tent, be prepared to be close. It's not big. I am 6' 2". I have shared it with my petite 5' tall GF and we both felt "confined."

Two friends of mine just set out on a long tour last week. Last month one of them told me they had bought a Hubba Hubba to share. I gave them my take. Whey they tried it out, back to REI it went for space reasons. They got a Big Agnes Copper Spur UL 3 instead. Packed weight is 2 oz. lighter and it's appreciably larger. (44 sq. ft vs. 29 sq. ft.) It's also more coin unless you can find a good deal on one.

Don't think the gear loft is going to provide that much more capacity. With two people in a Hubba Hubba, you can forget brining your panniers inside on the floor, and I don't think the loft would support the weight of even one loaded pannier unless it were really light. A gear loft is good for things like stashing a flashlight, phone and some clothes you want to air out.
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The Hubba Hubba's a fine tent. It will be nice to have the extra room on a cross country tour, I think a Hubba would be too constricting. If you were planning on both of you sleeping in the tent, I urge you, do not share a tent with your buddy on a cross country trip. You will not be buddies by the end. You will hate the smell of each other. You will hate the sound of each other. You'll need your own little sanctuary. The only time you really need to share a tent with a friend is on a mountaineering trip, where weight and warmth are critically important. Also, skip the gear shed. You'll stop setting it up about a week in and it will be dead weight. You should both get your own lightweight 2 man tent or spacious 1 man tent. I use a Big Agnes Seedhouse SL1. It's spacious, light, packs down shorter than most tents (good for fitting on rack tops, in bags etc.), and is a very stealthy olive drab.
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Personally if possible I'd buy from REI because of their excellent return policy.

On the size issue...
I personally think it is big enough for two, but that depends on your preferences. I figure the tent is to sleep or read in and neither require much space. I prefer to leave most of my gear in the panniers and on the bike, bringing in only what is needed to sleep and get dressed in the morning. If your needs are for more than that you may want a bigger tent.

For two I like the Eureka Spitfire 2. It can be found for $140, weighs 4 pounds, and is generally a pretty nice tent. There is room for a fair amount of gear inside.
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Originally Posted by staehpj1
Personally if possible I'd buy from REI because of their excellent return policy.
On that note, the REI "Dome" line of tents are probably the best bang-for-your-buck in today's tent market. Eureka's are a good value too.
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Sharing a tent with a buddy [and not a GF], and bringing in any panniers,
I'd go with a 3 person..


did they add a 3rd hubba, for the 3person version?

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Old 06-18-12, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Sharing a tent with a buddy [and not a GF], and bringing in any panniers,
I'd go with a 3 person..
Yeah given those assumptions I'd agree. Sharing a tent with a buddy at all is risky on a long tour unless you are really sure you will get along. Many times groups split up after squabbling. Which brings us to possibly using two one person tents. In that case I really like The Eureka Spitfire 1 unless you are too tall for it. It is a great tent, under $100 if you shop around, and about 2 lb. 9 oz. if you take the minimum complement of MSR Needle Stakes instead of the steel ones that come with the tent. You will not be able to bring in all of your gear though. I don't see that as a problem, but you may.
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Originally Posted by staehpj1
Yeah given those assumptions I'd agree. Sharing a tent with a buddy at all is risky on a long tour unless you are really sure you will get along. Many times groups split up after squabbling. Which brings us to possibly using two one person tents. In that case I really like The Eureka Spitfire 1 unless you are too tall for it. It is a great tent, under $100 if you shop around, and about 2 lb. 9 oz. if you take the minimum complement of MSR Needle Stakes instead of the steel ones that come with the tent. You will not be able to bring in all of your gear though. I don't see that as a problem, but you may.
I have the MSR Hubba (one person). It's a real squeeze just for one person. If you're touring fully loaded, there's really no room in it for the panniers. Friend has the Hubba Hubba just for himself and that's a more reasonable proposition, especially if the weather is against you.

I do like the Hubba though. I've coupled it with a Snugpak All Weather Shelter (tarp) that can be used to protect the tent(s) and/ or used as a communal area for cooking/ kit.

In fact, some times I just use the tarp. It's a whole lot of protection that fits neatly in my front pannier.

If I was you, I'd go with two one person tents and a communal tarp. Definitely better than a single three person tent or two two person tents.

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I've used the MSR Hubba Hubba on a long tour - great for me and all my stuff. But would not want to share with another person on a long trip as mentioned above.
I've also used the Nemo Obi 2P which is very similar, but a bit smaller and lighter (perfect for one, but definitely too small to 2 on a long trip)
Both these tents have held up well in all conditions - strong wind, torrential downpours, hot and cold conditions.
I wouldn't bother with the gear shed. Much better to take a tent each.
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I really liked the Hubba Hubba and the Big Agnes Fly Creek UL3 when I was picking out tents. I ended up with the Big Agnes and couldn't be happier its great for one person and would be ok for two but unless it's my wife I ain't sharing a tent :-)
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Originally Posted by DualFrontDiscs
I have the MSR Hubba (one person). It's a real squeeze just for one person. If you're touring fully loaded, there's really no room in it for the panniers.
That is where the decision comes in. If you carry much gear and want to bring in your panniers 1 person tents are pretty tight. If you either pack very light or see no need to bring in very much then they are likely to be fine.

Me, I can fit all my gear in a bivy if I want to, but even when I carried a lot more I left it in the panniers and on the bike. By the time I get in the tent I am ready to sleep and only need my sleeping gear and clothes for the morning.

Both ways work, it is just a matter of which way suits you as an individual.
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I too would strongly suggest having your own tent. Its important to have your own space and seperated time to yourself. This obviously rings even truer if horrible weather has you staying in the tent instead of riding.
I have always brought my panniers in the tent, or under the vestibule, so personally that is another reason for a 2 person tent for 1 person, more room inside if you are stuck in it, plus room to have your stuff. For me, the added weight of a larger tent (2 person tent for 1, 3 person tent for 2) has always been worth it for the extra space.
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Hey guys, thanks for the advice. I am in fact going with my best friend (not GF) and he's a guy I've known for 15 years and have lived with in the past for years at a time. I'm not concerned about spending the time together so much as space. It looks like from the descriptions given the Hubba is probably not the best idea as I'm 6 ft and he's about 5'6.

That being said, I hadn't taken into consideration stench or wanting to read at night and such so now I'm torn about getting a couple tents or one bigger one. So now that the Hubba is out...if we get a 3 person tent just how bad would the stench be, and if we get two tents how big a tent would you recommend for a big guy like me so I could bring gear into the tent to keep it out of the rain?
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CMoss, you are best friends, keep it that way! Lots of good advice here, go with the two man tent for each, side entry if possible, they are easier to get in and out of. You'll have room for some things in the tent with you or room to just stretch out. Enjoy your adventure!
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Originally Posted by CMoss

That being said, I hadn't taken into consideration stench or wanting to read at night and such so now I'm torn about getting a couple tents or one bigger one. S
sharing a tent is the same as sharing a bed, it's snug. I had a good friend who I had a business with, it's like being married and when the business went so did the friendship. Separate tents will matter should one person get sick, snore, talk in their sleep, thrash, fart, drool, etc.
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I've always like a bit more space in a tent, so I figure the number of people who fit in a tent is N-1, where N is the number of people the manufacturer claims it will hold. So I use a 2-person tent for just me, and a 3-person tent for two people.

That still doesn't leave a lot of room for gear, but if you've got waterproof panniers (like Ortliebs), you can bring a handlebar bag and perhaps a small pouch of other stuff in the tent with you, and leave the rest on the bike. Cover the saddle if it's leather in case of rain, and you have some chain lube, don't you?
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Originally Posted by CMoss
Hey guys, thanks for the advice. I am in fact going with my best friend (not GF) and he's a guy I've known for 15 years and have lived with in the past for years at a time. I'm not concerned about spending the time together so much as space. It looks like from the descriptions given the Hubba is probably not the best idea as I'm 6 ft and he's about 5'6.

That being said, I hadn't taken into consideration stench or wanting to read at night and such so now I'm torn about getting a couple tents or one bigger one. So now that the Hubba is out...if we get a 3 person tent just how bad would the stench be, and if we get two tents how big a tent would you recommend for a big guy like me so I could bring gear into the tent to keep it out of the rain?
I definitely support the idea of two smaller tents. My sons and I do a lot of long tours. (45 days) And it's nice to have our own space. My youngest son has the Hubba that he loves. And I have the Eureka back country. Bought it 10 years ago and have used it all these years. It's easy to set up and it's 8 ft length gives me enough space to put panniers in the end. It also has enough space to sit up in.
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I just bought a 2-person tent for solo touring. After shopping around, my preference was the Big Agnes Copper Spur 2, but I settled on an REI Quarter Dome 2 because it cost $100+ less and didn't weigh that much more. Packed size is a big issue, and the Quarter Dome has relatively short poles (17") that easily fit inside my rear panniers. The tent and fly take up just a small portion of the available space in my rear panniers, and would have easily fit in the front ones with room to spare. For personal use, I prefer a 2-man tent so I've got room to spread out and store gear inside the tent. For two people, I would want at least a 3-man tent. Another nice feature of the Quarter Dome is that is has two doors. REI has the older version of the Quarter Dome (which I prefer over the new model) on sale for $205 at its outlet store and the ground pad is only $12 extra -- compared to $50 or more for Big Agnes tent pads. The BA Copper Spur 2 costs about $400 full retail for the tent and fly but you can find it on-line for about $300 if you shop around, but I prefer buying from REI because of their excellent customer service and return policies.
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Solo? Marmot EOS 1P is your answer.
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I'd think you would be o.k. with a Hubba Hubba for yourself. As mentioned, I am 6' 2", and I have broad shoulders. Did a three-day last year. Rode to the campgrouynd Friday. Was supposed to do a day ride Saturday but heavy rain starting Friday night and lasting into Saturday afternoon nixed that. Between the fly and the space inside, I was able to keep the panniers out of the rain. Even managed to make breakfast under the fly.

As for a 3P, we have 44 sq. ft. of floor space and haven't noticed any stench even when showers have not been available. However, we take "sponge off" when there are no showers.

It sounds like keeping your gear inside is a major desire. In that case, I would go with two tents for space reasons alone.
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Originally Posted by DualFrontDiscs
I have the MSR Hubba (one person). It's a real squeeze just for one person. If you're touring fully loaded, there's really no room in it for the panniers. Friend has the Hubba Hubba just for himself and that's a more reasonable proposition, especially if the weather is against you.

I do like the Hubba though. I've coupled it with a Snugpak All Weather Shelter (tarp) that can be used to protect the tent(s) and/ or used as a communal area for cooking/ kit.

In fact, some times I just use the tarp. It's a whole lot of protection that fits neatly in my front pannier.

If I was you, I'd go with two one person tents and a communal tarp. Definitely better than a single three person tent or two two person tents.

DFD.
I have the Hubba and it is the best tent I have ever owned (many there). Very easy setup, strong, lasting, and light weight. It is tight though (like said above) so a Hubba Hubba for each of you would be great idea.
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