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87 cannondale ST frame quality VS Surly LHT? Someone with experience?

Old 07-31-12, 06:53 AM
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Thanks, in Croatia we learn english in school from day one....I was working in the States on the Cruise ship (Disney), so i have learned something....I have no doubt that will enjoy riding it at all....

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Old 07-31-12, 07:46 AM
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Guys i have one challenge. I started with build and stopped at downtube shiffter bosses. Here is the pics how it looks.
My question is, how i supposed to mount for example shimano RX100 shiffters on that? Did i miss something? I am only familiar with older friction and index shiffters such as 600ex, rx100, DA7400...

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Old 07-31-12, 10:31 AM
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human33, Two ways around this. File the spacer flat or buy the flat spacers intended for bar end shifters. Most just file off the 'wings' which are intended to fit smaller diameter tubing.

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Old 07-31-12, 11:27 AM
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Brad sorry but can you be more specific? My english is not soo good
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Old 07-31-12, 05:24 PM
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human33, The adaptor/spacer doesn't need to wrap around the downtube on the Cannondale, in fact it can't. In the lower picture the adaptor is the loose piece of plastic next to the Shimano shifter with the two concave cuts. File down the two long areas to make the adaptor flatter.

Big tubed bikes use the adaptor/spacer that is more commonly found on bar end shifters because it doesn't have to work with a tube, it is flat on both sides. Shimano terms the adaptor/spacer as a "lever boss cover". See item #2 in the following link.

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https://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830628723.pdf
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Old 08-01-12, 03:35 AM
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thanx bradtx i understood
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Old 08-01-12, 05:58 AM
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human33, The Shimano part should be available at a bike shop or they can order it (You may have to supply the part number.). You can also order from: https://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh21.htm . Again most people simply remove material until the adaptor fits.

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Old 08-01-12, 07:01 AM
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I just caught this thread. I had an ST700 of same vintage. It was an awesome, light frame, at least lighter than your typical touring bike. I really liked the ride, and the fact that mentioned lightness made it into a more sprightly ride when commuting. The downtube shifters turned out to be a big plus, as not only trouble-free, but also giving the option to swap out drop handlebars for various moustache, flat, or butterfly versions.
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Originally Posted by seeker333 View Post

Depending on the size you need, the LHT geometry is probably significantly superior to the ST400. The LHT's ST angle is lower, longer wheelbase, less chance for toe overlap, .

I had a 56cm 700c LHT that to my taste had an objectionable amount of toe over lap with fenders that announced itself with nearly every slow speed maneuver and heavy load. While the 700c is a fantastic load carrier the 26" version has no clearance issue and maneuverability is much better.
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I had a 56cm 700c LHT that to my taste had an objectionable amount of toe over lap with fenders that announced itself with nearly every slow speed maneuver and heavy load. While the 700c is a fantastic load carrier the 26" version has no clearance issue and maneuverability is much better.

Thanks for that info, I wouldn't have expected that since the LHT frame is pretty long. My Randonee has the same toe/fender problem. Plus I just don't get these touring bike makers that make frames with limited tire width capacity. One would think the large # of tourists that switched to mountain bikes would signal them that many riders want a more comfortable ride over bad surfaces. Actually I would prefer frames with shallow angles & much fork rake that would give a smooth ride even without fat tires. Like when I switched from the Cannondale T400 to an 80's Specialized hardtail Rockhopper...I put 38 mm slicks on (plus drop bars natch) & the ride was smooth as silk even at 80 pounds pressure.
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I am leaving at monday for 2 week summer coastline touring to try it out! I have to mount second bottle cage tomorrow and something camed from the ebay that i have to pic up in the early morning (RD or brakes???) ....Anyway it will be good for tryout but its not comleted yet...Thanks guys for all your help! Whish you great summer!


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human33, Congrats on a very nice build. Nice choice of accent color, IMHO.

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I am leaving at monday for 2 week summer coastline touring to try it out! I have to mount second bottle cage tomorrow and something camed from the ebay that i have to pic up in the early morning (RD or brakes???) ....Anyway it will be good for tryout but its not comleted yet...Thanks guys for all your help! Whish you great summer!
Looks sweet. Looks brand new compared to my old Cannondale frame. Sturdy rear rack & even the classic-bend handlebar. Light aluminum frame should help going up those coastal hills I reckon.
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Old 08-29-12, 12:58 PM
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Just to say thanks to everyone who give support for Cannondale purchase. Spent 20 days on the coastline and i can say that i will spend even more on this great touring machine! Maybe i put B17 flayer with some 35 instead 32 tires for some offroad roads but that s not something that i need this moment...

After i meet one Canadian with custom made frame and beautiful set up i decided to start saving money for Tubus Logo/Tara meets Ortileb classic

Ps.

Any opinion on Panaracer paselas TG compared to Vittoria Ranndo?? I love that vintage skin/brown sidewalls

Best Regards to you all!
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