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Old 08-03-12, 08:06 AM
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I've noticed a creaking/squeaking noise from my bike when I've been riding recently. I was worried that it was the crank set, but it's hard to tell where it's coming from since it only makes the noise when I'm on it and it's not like a loud, obvious brake squeal. Anyway, I tried pedaling standing up, kind of bouncing on the pedals and it didn't really make the noise then I sat and pedaled and kind of bounced myself on the seat and it made more of a noise. I've had this saddle for about 4000 miles. It's really comfortable but the noise is annoying. So can it be that it's time to re-tension with the little wrench that came in the box?
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Old 08-03-12, 08:26 AM
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This is reported a lot. My Brooks B-67 (similar to flyer) did it too. I removed the saddle and melted some Proofide and drizzled it into the front nose portion (saddle upside-down, where the tightener is). This worked for me.

BTW: Others have successfully used oil or grease. I figured the Proofide couldn't hurt so that's what I used. Many people assume it's the springs. Lubing them does nothing from my experience.

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Don't retension because of the noise. It's likely to be dry leather rubbing against steel frame. Drop a bit of oil where leather touches the steel parts in the saddle nose area and the rear saddle frame.
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hm, I don't think I have proofide here in Korea and I wouldn't know where to buy some. Could regular lubricant or petroleum jelly do the trick? or how about even cooking oil?
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Originally Posted by SurlyLaika View Post
or how about even cooking oil?
Sure you can! But the effect will be gone after some days (well, at least you'll see if it's the saddle). You can also apply a bit of melted bee wax, they also sell it in the shoe shops, or find a bee wax candle.

Or neutral shoe wax.

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I've read that the usual cause of this squeaking is metal-on-metal. A drop of lube up by the nose where there are lots of metal parts that can rub will probably do it. Or maybe by the springs - not the springs themselves, but the bolts that hold them or anywhere else metal can rub on metal.

Don't get the lube on the leather though. Leather likes beeswax and biological oils but petroleum oil is not so good for it.
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Check the bolts that hold the coil spring, in the frame.

get the Proofide shipped in if its not sold in Korea.
UK sellers, like SJScycles, ship planet wide..

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Check the bolts that hold the coil spring, in the frame.
That's where mine squeeks. I dribble a little wax based chain lube in there once in a while.

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Originally Posted by Jim Kukula View Post
I've read that the usual cause of this squeaking is metal-on-metal. A drop of lube up by the nose where there are lots of metal parts that can rub will probably do it. Or maybe by the springs - not the springs themselves, but the bolts that hold them or anywhere else metal can rub on metal.
Don't get the lube on the leather though. Leather likes beeswax and biological oils but petroleum oil is not so good for it.
My B67 did the same as the O.P, I assumed it had to be metal-on metal by the sound but no end of tightening & lubing would stop it, in the end it turned out to be leather on metal squeaking solved by what's already been suggested, proofide between the leather/metal contacts.

To the O.P, if it helps Proofide ingredients are (don't know %'s)-
Tallow- (animal fat)
Cod oil
Vegetable oil
Paraffin wax
Beeswax
Citronella oil

I guess shoe "dubbin" or horse tack Saddle soap in small quantities won't do any harm either.
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Considering the tiny amount you need to lubricate the metal on metal contact points, I think it safe to use a cooking oil or grease. I believe that one of the components of Proofhide is tallow, thus I suspect an animal fat would be acceptable if used sparingly.

Whoever sold you the Brooks should be able to sell you the Proofhide, unless you bought it used.
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I believe that one of the components of Proofhide is tallow, thus I suspect an animal fat would be acceptable if used sparingly.
That's an amazing bit of investigation considering my last post..................................

(oh, & by the way, we're talking about metal/leather contact not metal/metal where grease or oil would be better)
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okay, I'm going to use my White Lightning All Epic Ride lube. Their website say it's not petroleum based, so I guess it would be okay for metal on metal and leather on metal friction.
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hm, I don't think I have proofide here in Korea and I wouldn't know where to buy some. Could regular lubricant or petroleum jelly do the trick? or how about even cooking oil?
Do you have access to leather shoe care products? They might be a better choice than oil.

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it was the metal bits in the nose. No more noise. =]
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