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Old 08-05-12, 04:47 PM
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Cervelo RS works as a touring bike.

So 6 days and 350 miles into my tour around Massachusetts I'm convinced of the Cervelo RS's practicality as a touring bike. I did replace the standard 50t chain ring with a 46 and I'm running 36 spoke Mavic Open Pros with 25 mm UltraGatorskins. I climbed the Mohawk trail to Whittcome Summit on Rt 2 which is pretty long and has some steep gradients and maybe I would have liked something a little lower than 34/25, but if an overweight 51 year old can do it anyone can. The Berkshires are not high, but it has some fun climbs.
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Nice! Pictures? And what kind of load are you carrying / how are you carrying it?
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I've been riding in Western Mass and the front Ortlieb and rear saddlebag setup works nicely as its easy to get out of the saddle for the steep stuff

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Nice! Pictures? And what kind of load are you carrying / how are you carrying it?
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that isn't exactly fully loaded
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that isn't exactly fully loaded
Why not ? It has all his load !
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Old 08-07-12, 05:29 PM
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that isn't exactly fully loaded
Actually it is "fully loaded" if by that we mean tent, sleeping pad, bag and cooking equipment.
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Actually it is "fully loaded" if by that we mean tent, sleeping pad, bag and cooking equipment.
its a brilliant set up i'm still struggling with mine
Nun do you pack you camper saddlebag on or off the bike,
i bought the latest QR rack from carradice good rack (so far) but i have to leave the bag attached to get it packed, pain in the ass to be honest.
mind you i dont have as much seatpost showing as you do making the angle that bit steeper if you follow me.
another thing Nun do you use plastic bags to pack you gear inside the bag.
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its a brilliant set up i'm still struggling with mine
Nun do you pack you camper saddlebag on or off the bike,
i bought the latest QR rack from carradice good rack (so far) but i have to leave the bag attached to get it packed, pain in the ass to be honest.
mind you i dont have as much seatpost showing as you do making the angle that bit steeper if you follow me.
another thing Nun do you use plastic bags to pack you gear inside the bag.
I pack my bag off the bike. I make sure the buckles on the leather attaching straps are easy to get at. They are inside the bag, that way you can do them up tighter than if they are outside the bag. Then it's simple to feed them through the saddle loops and around the bags dowel. This can be difficult with new straps when the leather is stiff. Then I buckle up the third strap around the bagman. My tent goes on last.

I use a nylon compression sack for my sleeping bag and a nylon bag for my sleeping pad. Then my clothes go fill in the space left in the main compartment. The side pockets and for tools and food and I used plastic bags and nylon bags as appropriate.
Here's a picture of my bike next to the Deerfield River just before the climb to through the Mohawk State park begins.

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I pack my bag off the bike. I make sure the buckles on the leather attaching straps are easy to get at. They are inside the bag, that way you can do them up tighter than if they are outside the bag. Then it's simple to feed them through the saddle loops and around the bags dowel. This can be difficult with new straps when the leather is stiff. Then I buckle up the third strap around the bagman. My tent goes on last.

I use a nylon compression sack for my sleeping bag and a nylon bag for my sleeping pad. Then my clothes go fill in the space left in the main compartment. The side pockets and for tools and food and I used plastic bags and nylon bags as appropriate.
Here's a picture of my bike next to the Deerfield River just before the climb to through the Mohawk State park begins.

Thanks Nun but i have the QR version of the bagman support my saddle is the fizik alanti .
so the bag is a pain to get it mounted to the qr simply because i done have to much seatpost showing

but i love your set up, i shall keep trying until i get it right

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Thanks Nun but i have the QR version of the bagman support my saddle is the fizik alanti .
so the bag is a pain to get it mounten to the qr simpley because i done have to much seatpost showing

but i love your set up, i shall keep trying until i get it right
There's usually a bit of a learning curve. What I leaned in this last trip is that there are some "fun" climbs in Western MA and that it's great to have a fairly lightweight setup when staying at a motel. I have a chain cover I put on before I go into reception and it's an easy matter to pick up my bike with all the bags attached and walk up stairs.
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Hi,


I'm planning on taking my RS on a week long trip this summer, and through my research on packing options I came across this post. Is your blog still active? The link for wheelsofchance wasn't working.


Were you aware that the RS apparently has a weaker than normal seat clamp? The shop who sold it to me strongly advised against using a seat post pannier rack for that reason - the torque might damage it.


Anyways, what brand of saddle bag did you use? Do you see any reason not to use a 1/2 frame bag with the RS? I'm thinking the two combined should get me through an inn-to-inn trip. I'm looking at the options on this site, but they seem a little expensive: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/inde...log/Frame-Bags


I would greatly appreciate any insight you might have! I'm new to touring, obviously.
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Were you aware that the RS apparently has a weaker than normal seat clamp? The shop who sold it to me strongly advised against using a seat post pannier rack for that reason - the torque might damage it.
I doubt this is true. I haven't noticed that the seat clamp on my Cervelo RS is different from clamps on any other carbon frame I've owned. Carbon seat tubes are somewhat more slippery than alloy posts. If you're having problems with the seatpost slipping, it probably means that you need to apply some carbon assembly paste to the post.

The bigger worry with seatpost mounted racks is that you'll tighten the clamp on the rack too much and crush the post. If you're worried about this, you can do what I did: throw the cheap carbon post that came with your RS away and replace it with a Thomson alloy seatpost.

Edit: it sounds like nun is using a Carradice saddlebag and a Bagman rack to support it. I found the Carradice Nelson Longflap to be a good size for credit card tours... though they work much better on my Nashbar touring frame than my Cervelo RS.

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Originally Posted by cyclist11234 View Post
Hi,


I'm planning on taking my RS on a week long trip this summer, and through my research on packing options I came across this post. Is your blog still active? The link for wheelsofchance wasn't working.


Were you aware that the RS apparently has a weaker than normal seat clamp? The shop who sold it to me strongly advised against using a seat post pannier rack for that reason - the torque might damage it.


Anyways, what brand of saddle bag did you use? Do you see any reason not to use a 1/2 frame bag with the RS? I'm thinking the two combined should get me through an inn-to-inn trip. I'm looking at the options on this site, but they seem a little expensive: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/inde...log/Frame-Bags


I would greatly appreciate any insight you might have! I'm new to touring, obviously.
Sorry about the link. I didn't pay for my domain name last year and it's reverted to the default. Here is detail on my setup

http://wheelsofchance.wordpress.com/.../25/gear-list/

I've changed the gearing on my RS and now have 46/34 x 12/36. I've never really needed such low gearing. but I was curious to see how it worked on the Cervelo and if I ever do a cross country trip I'd use it "just in case".

I haven't noticed any issues with the seat clamp. I am using an aluminum seat post.

I use a Carradice Camper saddlebag and the saddle to wheel clearance means that I don't need any support for it. I also have an Ortlieb Classic handlebar bag. I'm sure the Relevant frame bags and saddlebags would work just fine and you'd have ample room for credit card touring gear. You need to consider clearance of your handle bars to use bike packer type front bags/rolls though.

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Were you aware that the RS apparently has a weaker than normal seat clamp? The shop who sold it to me strongly advised against using a seat post pannier rack for that reason - the torque might damage it.
I doubt that the seat post clamp is especially weak on the RS, but agree that beam type seat post racks are not a great idea. Not sure they are on any bike.

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I'm thinking the two combined should get me through an inn-to-inn trip.
For an inn to inn trip you really don't need much beyond what you would carry on a day ride. You could just about get by with carrying everything in a jersey pocket. A decent sized handlebar bag should be plenty. What do you really need? Weather appropriate riding clothes, something to change into in the evening while your bike clothes are rinsed out and dried, a few snacks, sunscreen, and a credit card is about it. The off bike clothes can be as little as running shorts and a tech tee shirt. I really do not think I am exaggerating when I say that could fit in jersey pockets.

Pack carefully and you can camp and cook with the bag space you propose using. I figure that I had about 14 pounds of stuff on my San Diego to Pensacola tour and I split it between two stuff sacks on a rear rack and a bar bag. I have learned to pack even lighter since then.

On a MTB trip I carried 11 pounds of gear. I used a dry bag under the saddle and a bar roll, supplemented with a little backpack. So no more than 4 pounds of stuff each place plus some food. I was able to camp and cook meals pretty comfortably with that setup.
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Check out the Arkel Randonneur Seatpost Rack, it mounts to the saddle rails and seat post giving it a 3-point support that is WAY more solid than those that only clamp to the post.

I've seen a couple of Cervelo seat post clamps crack; it was probably from overtightening, but if it was my bike then I would replace the clamp with a sturdier one at the same time I was replacing the post with a metal one before loading the bike up for such a trip.
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Check out the Arkel Randonneur Seatpost Rack, it mounts to the saddle rails and seat post giving it a 3-point support that is WAY more solid than those that only clamp to the post.

I've seen a couple of Cervelo seat post clamps crack; it was probably from overtightening, but if it was my bike then I would replace the clamp with a sturdier one at the same time I was replacing the post with a metal one before loading the bike up for such a trip.
I would definitely avoid carbon and use a metal seat post if I was going to clamp anything to it. I haven't had any issues with the seatpost clamp on my RS, but I'll watch out for cracking. I don't really like the racks that clamp to the seatpost as they cantilever that load out quite a way from the saddle. The nice thing about Carradice type saddlebags is that they mount close to the center of gravity and often don't need a rack at all.
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If not going rack-less, a light rack that attaches at the brake mounting and the axle would be another decent option. A little rich for my blood, but a good choice in design and weight (11 oz.) would be the Tubus Fly.
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Fenders ?
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re these axle quick release mounted type racks, Axiom makes one that is reasonably priced and is perfectly capable for holding a reasonable load. Under $40 here in Canada, have one on my wifes bike.

http://www.axiomgear.com/products/ge...iner-road-dlx/

and then there are lightweight panniers like the new waterproof Arkel ones, although a very narrow rack might be problematic for mounting them as they use velcro, might be fine but dont know.

http://www.arkel.ca/ca_e/all-categor...rom_store=ca_f

neat options if you wanted to go the rack route while still keeping things as light as possible, the Arkel bags look like they would be great for bulky clothes and such, and still waterproof.
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re these axle quick release mounted type racks, Axiom makes one that is reasonably priced and is perfectly capable for holding a reasonable load. Under $40 here in Canada, have one on my wifes bike.

http://www.axiomgear.com/products/ge...iner-road-dlx/

and then there are lightweight panniers like the new waterproof Arkel ones, although a very narrow rack might be problematic for mounting them as they use velcro, might be fine but dont know.

http://www.arkel.ca/ca_e/all-categor...rom_store=ca_f

neat options if you wanted to go the rack route while still keeping things as light as possible, the Arkel bags look like they would be great for bulky clothes and such, and still waterproof.
I like the look of those new Arkel panniers; they are a 180 from the usual heavy and "feature rich" Arkel panniers.

There are lots of small racks that can be mounted using the brake mount hole and the axle or even p-clamps. Rivendell sells a few and lots of useful hardware too. However, if you can eliminate the rack it's just one less thing to carry.
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Why not ? It has all his load !

touring light allows you to do friendly dicing with local boys who crossed your path.
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Given a Touring bike is really any bike you go touring on .. it certainly is one that qualifies.

glad you are proud of the thing you bought.
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I like the look of those new Arkel panniers; they are a 180 from the usual heavy and "feature rich" Arkel panniers.
true true, the Arkel stuff certainly seems well enough made, but even their handlebar bags are heavy suckers. When looking to get a new bar bag a few years ago I had an open mind and looked at all brands, but the Arkel was just so heavy that I went with the Ortlieb, despite preferring a zipper for ease of opening with one hand while riding (grabbing a camera specifically).
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true true, the Arkel stuff certainly seems well enough made, but even their handlebar bags are heavy suckers. When looking to get a new bar bag a few years ago I had an open mind and looked at all brands, but the Arkel was just so heavy that I went with the Ortlieb, despite preferring a zipper for ease of opening with one hand while riding (grabbing a camera specifically).
I did exactly the same. I picked up the Arkel and almost did my back in! There's so much metal in the attachment and frame that it weighs a tonne (Arkel is Canadian). I then looked at Ortlieb and liked the simplicity and lighter weight. The Ortlieb is not perfect, the lid is a pain in the neck as is attaching the shoulder strap. Also the way the mounting bracket attaches to the handle bars is bizarre.....so I got a Klickfix bracket, it still uses the wire, but at least clamps around the bars too.
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